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This is a normal post That or cleaning his guns on his kitchen table and a bullet entering mine
because he's a pillock.

Ultimately it is a tiny, tiny amount of people who are murdered during robberies, and in a lot of instances the proportion of people prepared to actively add the possibility of first degree murder to their sentence when they are nicking someone's jewellery or DVD collection is utterly tiny. Being roughed up during a burglary, whilst unpleasant, is far more preferable than being confronted by some deranged loose canon with a gun, so armed because every household has a gun for protection, or simply living in a society where that is the vibe. Let them take my Game of Thrones boxed set or Aunty Dora's 1908 gold pocket watch without slaying me; I can claim them off the insurance, and it hasn't worked since 1953 in any case.
(, Sun 27 Apr 2014, 12:04, Reply)
This is a normal post Guns
are tremendous fun. As long as you're on a range and you know how to handle a gun. Reaching out and "touching" a target, hitting at what you aim at and destroying it, is immensely satisfying.

But I'd hate to live in a society where everyone is armed. Or where the average Joe can carry around a concealed weapon - legally. Or where you have these "Stand Your Ground" laws.

Where I live now, Oz, the gun laws are very similar to the UK. And the amount of gunshot injuries we get in a year is around what a large US cities get in a day.
(, Sun 27 Apr 2014, 13:25, Reply)
This is a normal post I'll declare an interest here
I do own guns, and thoroughly enjoy my shooting. I like the fact that here in the UK I have to be licensed and get a visit from the Police whenever I renew.

When gun ownership is as normalised as this (below) there's something wrong:



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(, Sun 27 Apr 2014, 13:48, Reply)
This is a normal post Yes, and the wrong thing is everyone knows nothing is free.
Nothing. The gun is being payed for one way or another and it's not the merchant paying for it. So it's marketing for idiots right off, if it is real and not a photoshopped billboard.
(, Sun 27 Apr 2014, 22:40, Reply)
This is a normal post Exactly
and it comes as a constant source of absolute bewilderment, and it always has done, when you put such stark facts to North Americans who advocate all this life would be nicer if everyone was armed type argument, how it sails straight through their heads. Perhaps they genuinely would prefer to live in a society where there's that constant risk of accidental injury or death from guns being everywhere and some sense of macho standing your ground/defending yourself entitlement, and having that horrific statistic of gun related deaths and injuries. Seems strange to me, but there you go
(, Sun 27 Apr 2014, 13:58, Reply)
This is a normal post Counterpoint - It is in their constitution because it is the expectation of the individual to defend the country
Also, we have a monarchy which makes even less sense
(, Sun 27 Apr 2014, 16:47, Reply)
This is a normal post Are you drunk?

(, Sun 27 Apr 2014, 16:59, Reply)
This is a normal post They probably penned that constitution when half that continent was still owned by Spain and France
and lots and lots of hostile, pissed off indiginenous people, when keeping a musket by the front door would have been prudent
(, Sun 27 Apr 2014, 17:57, Reply)
This is a normal post Nobody says that!

(, Sun 27 Apr 2014, 22:38, Reply)