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This is a normal post That would seem to be the economic argument settled then.

(I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Fri 15 May 2015, 16:08, Reply)
This is a normal post No.
A) those links seem to suggest the 100k figure to be a large exaggeration.
B) where is the evidence that once housed offending ceases?
I'm not against housing the homeless, quite the opposite. What I am opposed to is economically illiterate lefties dressing it up as some kind of money saving step towards an affordable and viable socialist utopia.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Fri 15 May 2015, 16:35, Reply)
This is a normal post hELLO SEXY BOY
A) those links seem to suggest the 100k figure to be a large exaggeration.
And I supplied data with a more conservative estimate. Agreed.

B) where is the evidence that once housed offending ceases?
Strawman. The argument is reiterated below.

"I'm not against housing the homeless, quite the opposite."
Great!

"What I am opposed to is economically illiterate lefties dressing it up as some kind of money saving step towards an affordable and viable socialist utopia."

Which is another strawman; the argument is that it is cheaper to house them than leave them on the streets and that's what the references demonstrably show.
 (I helped save b3ta! colmcq2, Fri 15 May 2015, 17:04, Reply)
This is a normal post You throw 'straw man' around a lot. I think you think it makes you sound clever.
I'm quite sure you don't know what it means. The data shows cost of law and order for criminal acts of homeless reduced. That does not mean that crime overall goes down, or that those former homeless cease engaging in criminal behaviour. It does show that less crime is committed by homeless people, unsurprisingly, because they are no longer homeless. This is a good thing, but let's not overstate the impact of crime by fiddling numbers, or the economics of it by similar methodology.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Fri 15 May 2015, 18:25, Reply)
This is a normal post wasnt the central point you willfully ignorant goon
have you read the references? your point is dealt with there.
 (I helped save b3ta! colmcq2, Fri 15 May 2015, 21:02, Reply)
This is a normal post Why don't you post some sexualised oriental little girls like you normally do
You think anyone with two brain cells takes Huff Post seriously? Fuck off twat.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Fri 15 May 2015, 23:31, Reply)
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(I helped save b3ta! Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Sat 16 May 2015, 1:45, Reply)
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 (I helped save b3ta! colmcq2, Sat 16 May 2015, 9:10, Reply)
This is a normal post Huh?
You did read this part didn't you?

"But based on what we learned about the housing-first approach to ending homelessness, Donovan’s underlying point, as well as the dollar figure he cited, hold up."

Exaggeration or not, the short-term economic benefit is clear. The long-term aspect cannot be proven as the program hasn't been running long enough to provide useful data.
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Fri 15 May 2015, 17:13, Reply)
This is a normal post KTHXBYE

(I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Fri 15 May 2015, 18:26, Reply)