It seems to be an acceptable tactic of the left now
It seems it's too difficult to deconstruct someone's ideas, make them look like a buffoon with facts and then present a superior argument in order to win people over.
What you have to do these days is stifle debate, censor, disrupt, spit, assault, throw eggs until everyone can see the message of tolerance you are spreading.
( , Fri 3 Jun 2016, 12:14, Share, Reply)
It seems it's too difficult to deconstruct someone's ideas, make them look like a buffoon with facts and then present a superior argument in order to win people over.
What you have to do these days is stifle debate, censor, disrupt, spit, assault, throw eggs until everyone can see the message of tolerance you are spreading.
( , Fri 3 Jun 2016, 12:14, Share, Reply)
it's not a left/right issue
there are cunts at the fringes of everything
( , Fri 3 Jun 2016, 12:15, Share, Reply)
there are cunts at the fringes of everything
( , Fri 3 Jun 2016, 12:15, Share, Reply)
True, we should round them all up and boil them down for tallow.
I wonder if it ever occurs to them that all they do is reinforce entrenched views and push people toward the opposite extreme.
( , Fri 3 Jun 2016, 12:22, Share, Reply)
I wonder if it ever occurs to them that all they do is reinforce entrenched views and push people toward the opposite extreme.
( , Fri 3 Jun 2016, 12:22, Share, Reply)
I find honest fringes refreshing. They are at least trying to have coherent world view.
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No problem with that at all so long as they are part of the debate rather than trying to shut debate down.
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Except there is no debate.
Thanks to the multitude of news sources available, it is easy to only watch that which reinforces your world view and tends to confirm your prejudices. US politics has become so polarised that there are very few people with a balanced view and thus no middle of the road opinion.
There are actually many, many sensible Americans who support Trump and see Hilary Clinton as evil incarnate. Their simplistic view is that they have worked hard, saved, pay into healthcare schemes from their earnings and she wants to take the majority of their earnings off them and give it to lazy people who made no provision for their own care and illegal immigrants.
We (probably correctly) see Trump as a dangerous lunatic, but don't make the mistake of thinking all his supporters are, nor that he is unelectable...
( , Fri 3 Jun 2016, 14:18, Share, Reply)
Thanks to the multitude of news sources available, it is easy to only watch that which reinforces your world view and tends to confirm your prejudices. US politics has become so polarised that there are very few people with a balanced view and thus no middle of the road opinion.
There are actually many, many sensible Americans who support Trump and see Hilary Clinton as evil incarnate. Their simplistic view is that they have worked hard, saved, pay into healthcare schemes from their earnings and she wants to take the majority of their earnings off them and give it to lazy people who made no provision for their own care and illegal immigrants.
We (probably correctly) see Trump as a dangerous lunatic, but don't make the mistake of thinking all his supporters are, nor that he is unelectable...
( , Fri 3 Jun 2016, 14:18, Share, Reply)
Polarisation is on purpose, in reality both are middle of the road parties, only different flavour, for different target group.
Polarisation gives tribal spin and retains voters. Simples.
( , Fri 3 Jun 2016, 14:40, Share, Reply)
Polarisation gives tribal spin and retains voters. Simples.
( , Fri 3 Jun 2016, 14:40, Share, Reply)
I think there is a more vocal, numerous and active left wing fringe
If you look at this country, compare the number of demonstrations/riots that take place under a conservative administration to that that take place under a labour administration. I realise these things are policy related, but even so.
( , Fri 3 Jun 2016, 12:24, Share, Reply)
If you look at this country, compare the number of demonstrations/riots that take place under a conservative administration to that that take place under a labour administration. I realise these things are policy related, but even so.
( , Fri 3 Jun 2016, 12:24, Share, Reply)
It's probably because people get more right wing as they get older.
Pensioners find it hard to work up the energy to go into town to spit at people entering the Labour party conference. That, and they'd forgotten what they'd gone into town for by the time they got there.
( , Fri 3 Jun 2016, 12:28, Share, Reply)
Pensioners find it hard to work up the energy to go into town to spit at people entering the Labour party conference. That, and they'd forgotten what they'd gone into town for by the time they got there.
( , Fri 3 Jun 2016, 12:28, Share, Reply)
people tend to get pissed off when they think they're being denied something
which is basically what Austerity is all about
( , Fri 3 Jun 2016, 14:36, Share, Reply)
which is basically what Austerity is all about
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