so call them cunts, they double her sentence, then what?
She's in jail for a decade, the Iranians are a bit angrier, erm...
(, Tue 7 Nov 2017, 11:18, Reply)
Don't be such a benny, benny.
Nothing he said to that Select Committee is new to the Iranians.
Fuck it's not even new to me.
She's being held as a political pawn in negotiations and to stop others from daring to train journalists.
She's in jail for as long as they want her in jail.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 7 Nov 2017, 11:27,
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certainly if the foreign secretary keeps undermining her defence, yes
(, Tue 7 Nov 2017, 11:40, Reply)
Tell you what, you go back to having a wank over the latest "Boris gaff" and let the grown ups do the thinking eh?
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 7 Nov 2017, 12:42,
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he's been on the phone all morning to Tehran, 'clarifying' his comments
What nous
(, Tue 7 Nov 2017, 13:17, Reply)
Yes the nice man in Iran has assured him that his comments had nothing to do with ramping up the sentence.
Not that they needed any excuse to do so anyway.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 7 Nov 2017, 13:36,
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You're being a bit of a patronising twat there.
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sm.pl.crt.rs I don't fucking know, do I?, Tue 7 Nov 2017, 22:09,
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Tried being captain reasonable and had Benny jump in with his size 3's
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 8 Nov 2017, 7:33,
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Bit naive, this is the whole point of international diplomacy, its a subtle art that Borisconi is too self-absorbed to get and is wholly unsuited for. Her guilt or not or the rights and wrongs of the Iranian position might be in question...but Boris' suitability for the post is not.
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transparenttown Dead to worse..., Tue 7 Nov 2017, 12:39,
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How am I being naive?
This isn't about his suitability it's about a point in fact.
She was training journalists.
Those journalists were imprisoned.
She was imprisoned on hidden charges most likely because she trained those journalists.
No matter who is in that post those details do not change.
All he did was to state the fact that she had trained them.
Was he supposed to keep quite and mislead the Select Committee?
I'm pretty sure that's against the rules.
Now people can use her situation to have a go at Boris or they can start getting angry that a British citizen is being held as a political prisoner.
Because they sure as hell were not a few days ago and she's been rotting there a bloody year.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 7 Nov 2017, 13:10,
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You’re not being naive,
You’re being wilfully ignorant.
It’s a basic rule of diplomacy that if the government you’re dealing with are cheating, lying scumbags, if you’re after anything then you don’t publicly acknowledge that. The absolute very last thing you do is tell the truth, when the truth will see this womanr locked up for longer.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Tue 7 Nov 2017, 13:25,
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TLDR Boris is a proved c*** isn't good at this job
Iran are playing a diplomatic game and have ceased on his slip, as any decent government, despotic or not, would do.
Boris made an unforced error, he didn't have to say what he said, while he can't lie he wasn't asked a direct question about it. He even says this himself "we have to be careful about this..." Regardless of it being just a diplomatic power play...he f***ed up.
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transparenttown Dead to worse..., Tue 7 Nov 2017, 13:38,
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