They should just accept the fact that
there aren't enough good teachers or clever children to go round.
So rather than every state school being terrible, and the few potential geniuses we have languishing somewhere that doesn't challenge them, we make more grammar schools.
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We could pay teachers the same as doctors or lawyers and make teaching something other than a altruistic vocation?
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Tue 21 Nov 2017, 15:22,
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How little do you think teachers get paid compared to doctors?
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 21 Nov 2017, 15:41,
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The current average starting salary for a teacher is just over £19,000, after 10 years service, this reaches approximately £29,000. That's frankly disgusting. A top of their profession a Head Teacher can earn just over £100k ...and then they are stuck, there is no progression possible past that... except perhaps university chancellors, who are never actually teachers.
Starting salary for a junior doctor is £23,000 rising to £30,000 in four years. However the average salary for GPs is between 60,000 and 100,000 depending on location with specialists running to millions and millions.
Given the entry level for a fucking web designer out of uni is £23,000, why would anyone opt for the shit-show that is teaching? the crappy hours, the institutionalized staff and worst of all the kids. Ugh.
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Tue 21 Nov 2017, 16:00,
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It's beyond me.
Teachers, nurses, policemen... all are getting priced out of home ownership in many areas when they face long hours of shite. Seems completely out of kilter with the jobs they do and their responsibilities.
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Tue 21 Nov 2017, 16:10,
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They do not generate money directly
Unfortunately that is generally how the worth of the individual to the capitalist system is judged
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Tue 21 Nov 2017, 16:27,
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Could always do something about the rapid rise in house prices.
Hell I bought my house 6 years ago and it's gone up in value by 71% for doing fuck all. And that's in Bedfordsire.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 21 Nov 2017, 16:28,
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Oh absolutely, there is a cost of living crisis fo shizzle in the country.
Seems so odd that growing up in the 80's that families could afford a 3 bed semi in a leafy suburb on one person's wages plus one holiday a year without working themselves to death.
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Tue 21 Nov 2017, 17:36,
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There's probably lots of factors but one of them is people starting seeing property as an investment.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 21 Nov 2017, 17:45,
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I ask because I was mildly surprised having looked it up.
Where are you getting your numbers for teacher pay from?
NASUWT Teachers pay scale (Not including London)
Yes you can earn more if you become a Specialist or G.P.
Consultants do very well and a G.P gets around the same as a head teacher.
www.healthcareers.nhs.uk/explore-roles/doctors/pay-doctors
Also Doctors have to make life and death decisions under great stress.
Teachers have to stop little Jimmy from eating glue and make sure he knows his times table up to 10 x 10.
Now if you were to say Nurses pay then I would agree totally with you.
That needs to increased.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 21 Nov 2017, 16:26,
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I think you may be confusing a nursery school assistant with a teacher...or education has changed from my day.
Primary school is a slightly different kettle of fish, but I'm looking at the secondary school/college figures ..They are from 2014 though, so if they've gone up a bit since then, super!
However would I rather make a life and death call on someone than teach a room of 35+ uninterested borderline feral inner city teenagers who don't want to be there?? I know which would be way way more stressful for me. At least when you're at school you can get away with punching another student for being a dick, teachers are impossible saints.
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Tue 21 Nov 2017, 16:33,
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