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This is a normal post I think the argument is it's not worth the effort if it's not changing the world
Charidee appeals are pointless sticking plasters without global political reform. Although it's rather more difficult to get the celebs on board for that
 (benito vaselini no not that one, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 11:33, , Reply)
This is a normal post Don't you start to change the world by helping one person at a time?

(I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 11:36, , Reply)
This is a normal post I think you start by thinking about it all quite carefully

(benito vaselini no not that one, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 12:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post Thoughts don't save lives, actions do.
It may not be a long term solution, but in the short term, while to you're having your think, I think those helped are pretty happy about it.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 14:01, , Reply)
This is a normal post Short term since the 80s

(dyllon nice beaver., Mon 4 Dec 2017, 14:33, , Reply)
This is a normal post meanwhile our government tacitly supports the status quo that keeps these people poor and ensures it will all happen again next year
Top marks everyone
 (benito vaselini no not that one, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 15:55, , Reply)
This is a normal post The CAP of your beloved EU is explicitly designed to keep African farmers poor.

(I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 16:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post ^^^^ THIS!

(I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 17:59, , Reply)
This is a normal post Is that the bit that imposes massive tarrifs on processed coffee and cocoa products?
so African farmers cant get full value from the crops they grow?
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 18:21, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'd imagine the people who voted for brexit because of concerns about international development will be even more disappointed than the racists

(benito vaselini no not that one, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 19:48, , Reply)
This is a normal post I think my friend will understand
that this would come under the heading of 'sovereignty'. As in deciding tariffs with the rest of the world. Not discriminating against non-EU members by use of tariff barriers.
I'm pro-EU but I'm also free trade. You're just being a dick.
 (I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 20:48, , Reply)
This is a normal post I just want the long stem broccoli from Kenya I buy at Waitrose to be a bit cheaper.

(I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 22:17, , Reply)
This is a normal post What utter bollocks.
There's loads of charitable foundations that do real good here and abroad.
Are you arguing we should close them down in the hope governments might start giving a shit in some utopian new world order?
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 11:40, , Reply)
This is a normal post ^and this is why it's all doomed to failure
Stupid people convinced that 'making a difference' means making a difference to the way they feel rather than to any intractable problem on another continent
 (benito vaselini no not that one, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 12:07, , Reply)
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Thought that with the Tom Hardy example, he went to Yemen? The best thing we could all do to help Yemen is to put pressure on our Government to put pressure on SA. Ok it isn't a black&white situation but more could be done...but getting Tom Hardy with a placard outside Westminster asking all his fans to write to their MP doesn't bring in the cash I guess.
 (I helped save b3ta! transparenttown Dead to worse..., Mon 4 Dec 2017, 12:19, , Reply)
This is a normal post they should have dressed him up as Bane and dropped him behind enemy lines

(benito vaselini no not that one, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 12:24, , Reply)
This is a normal post With Yemen a lot can be achieved by the world stopping selling arms to either side and getting SA and Iran to talk rather than fight their proxy wars.
But that's not going to happen any time soon and the likely hood of all out war is getting much greater.

As for governmental pressure from SA, from what i've heard with interviews of diplomats is public pressure is counter productive.

I would hope there is some pressure in private but being private I have no assurances there.
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 12:26, , Reply)
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So your saying Tom should be outside BAE with his placard?
 (I helped save b3ta! transparenttown Dead to worse..., Mon 4 Dec 2017, 12:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post It's a free country.
But in specifically the situation in Yemen it's not going to help unless Mohammad bin Salman is a big fan of his.

Where it would help is if there was a situation where the public giving a shit mattered. Iran and SA are not going to stop their fighting because some westerners are concerned about it and the cold hard fact is the UK government have only a few leavers to pull and they must be pulled in private in order to have a positive effect.
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 12:38, , Reply)
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Humm, a positive change might be not dropping British supplied BL755 cluster bombs on civilian populations.
 (I helped save b3ta! transparenttown Dead to worse..., Mon 4 Dec 2017, 12:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post Like I said
"With Yemen a lot can be achieved by the world stopping selling arms to either side and getting SA and Iran to talk rather than fight their proxy wars."

I'ld love the UK government to ban arms exports to SA.
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 12:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post that sounds achievable

(benito vaselini no not that one, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 12:49, , Reply)
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We are all agreed then? Tom Hardy is going to stand outside BAE until the UK stops selling offensive armaments to SA. He will be the bane of the arms industry!
 (I helped save b3ta! transparenttown Dead to worse..., Mon 4 Dec 2017, 12:58, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'ld feel better about things.
Wouldn't make a difference on the ground though.
SA will just buy more from America.
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 13:30, , Reply)
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(I helped save b3ta! Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 14:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post *Rings Putin*, *texts Saudi8
Whatsapp to Iran. Writes flowery letter to France. etc etc
 (I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 20:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post "any intractable problem on another continent"
Ah I see, you just object to supporting overseas charities then?

Sure you wouldn't decline the help from the likes of Shelter, Cancer Research, RNIB etc if you found yourself in a position to need it.
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 12:32, , Reply)
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More must be done for B3tans who are homeless, cancer ridden and drowning.
 (I helped save b3ta! transparenttown Dead to worse..., Mon 4 Dec 2017, 12:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yes, help me!

(sithemong, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 14:12, , Reply)
This is a normal post works just as well with domestic charities
Shall we vote for people who promise to raise taxes in order to combat homelessness / research cancer cures / help disabled people or shall we pop 50p in James Corden's rattling tin for an instant warm glow?
 (benito vaselini no not that one, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 12:38, , Reply)
This is a normal post So make the NGO's GO's?
Make charity workers currently working for free or reduced pay state employees? Currently thats 853,000 people.
That's going to be very expensive to do isn't it?

Also it's going to make them political. MSF is already a target when doing their work. Is making them an arm of the state going to help that?

If it were me I would continue to fund these causes via massive tax relief and government funding.

Anyway, whatever makes you feel good when sneering at others helping others.
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 12:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post it's not helping, most of these problems get worse every year
Because the real solutions are hard and involve much more sacrifice than people are comfortable with
 (benito vaselini no not that one, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 13:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post I suspect the people making the sacrifice will be the ones needing charity that your NWO has nationalised...
Anyways, got shit to do Benny. Fuckity bye!
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 13:27, , Reply)
This is a normal post where did you get 853,000 from
genuine question
 (theswollenbeef where there's a will there's a wank, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 14:23, , Reply)
This is a normal post Here you go
Could have done more research but not worth it for a half hearted Benny Bargey.

data.ncvo.org.uk/a/almanac17/workforce-3/

data.ncvo.org.uk/a/almanac17/workforce-4/#Workforce_and_organisation_type
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 15:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post those are paid staff
ok
 (theswollenbeef where there's a will there's a wank, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 15:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post Well I said "Make charity workers currently working for free or reduced pay state employees?"
Thought the number was large enough to point out it couldn't be nationalised without muddling things with workers that work for free a few times a year or month.

But here you go.
data.ncvo.org.uk/a/almanac14/how-many-people-regularly-volunteer-in-the-uk-3/
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 16:14, , Reply)
This is a normal post Do you call appeal phone lines to offer global political reform suggestions?

(I helped save b3ta! Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 12:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post no, I tend to be in the pub when there's a telethon on

(benito vaselini no not that one, Mon 4 Dec 2017, 12:16, , Reply)