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This is a normal post Well
personally, I always get either a WAV or a FLAC to listen to my music.

Just got some new AKG headphones which are so good I get goosebumps listening to some music.

When I listen to the same files through BlueTooth (which has its own compression involved) I don't.

He would be better off arguing against lossy compression. That is the real enemy of high-quality audio.

I use Spotify in the same way I use thumbnails when looking for pictures. You can get an idea of the thing quickly and browse many files, but when you want to get the real thing, get a lossless copy.

Spotify has enabled me to increase my music collection in directions I would not have otherwise considered, but I would not use it to get copies of files to listen to.
(, Wed 21 Aug 2019, 11:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post
What he did to Grunge with Crazy Horse or whatever was just as criminal.
Worst hard rock voice eva!
(, Wed 21 Aug 2019, 12:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post I wonder how much of those goosebumps are psychological.
And how much are due to a genuine perceivable increase in quality when listening to lossless files?
I studied Audio Engineering and Music Technology at Uni, so I'm effectively very much in the 'Audiophile' camp (although, audiophile is a term coined by pricks, for pricks who read What Hi-fi and believe that spending thousands of pounds on digital interconnects will give them an honest-to-God better listening experience than a £10 interconnect from Amazon would.) and I can say with certainty that I could not tell you the difference between a 256kbit Mp3 and FLAC, regardless of the equipment.
I'll admit that there might be some quantifiable aural disparity between Bluetooth and hardwired audio. But even then, you'd be hard pushed to tell the difference in the majority of cases assuming you're using a decent Bluetooth codec, you'd likely need a side-by-side comparison and it's a little irrelevant anyway, since Bluetooth is designed largely for convenience and portability, not ultimate fidelity.

That being said, I still keep all my music as FLAC as at the end of the day. It's a lossless format, and you'd be mad to archive your audio lossy. But can you really hear the difference? Or is your brain just telling you that you can?
(, Wed 21 Aug 2019, 17:29, , Reply)
This is a normal post Audiophile interconnects are not for listening , silly.
They are for persuading well off egotists that they have the best wires, the most 'taste' and spend bigliest because they deserve 'the best'.
See also, most expensive anything.

'The emperors clothes' rides again.

Edit: A fair dose of the placebo effect too.
(, Wed 21 Aug 2019, 19:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post Hi Mr Penis
I too would count myself on the saner side of Audiophilia, and as such I wonder if you can eloborate on whether there's any distinction between your brain telling you that there's a difference, and there actually really being a difference? What else could possibly tell you there's a differnce if not your brain? If you can really hear the difference, then the difference is surely really real.

Even in cases where there is no independantly measurable difference, if you really can hear an improvement, then this is objectionally no differnt to the case where there actually is a real measuable differnce. But then, I'm lucky enough to own some really fucking incredible speakers, and there are LOTS of ways to describe the quality of a listening experience that are completely different to the resolution of a digital file etc.
(, Wed 21 Aug 2019, 19:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post My point was
Would you still be able to tell the difference if you were going in blind (deaf)?
If you were listening to a 256/320kbps mp3 that somebody was passing off as a FLAC, would you be able to call their bluff?
You could probably tell the difference with some practise and some fantastically high end equipment, but that gear is going to be well beyond the capability of any set of AKG headphones. And well beyond the capability of most bank balances.
It's a bit like the 16bit vs. 24bit audio debate. There are folk out there who will stake their reputation on 24bit being a superior listening experience. It's not. It's just fucking not. But again, I'm sure some folk will claim that theres a perceivable difference in dynamic range when there isn't.

I get what you're saying. If your brain thinks it can hear difference, that's all that really matters. Whether or not the is an actual scientifically Audible difference is irrelevant.
I also agree that bit rate is only a tiny factor in the overall experience. If a track has been mastered like dogshit, then having the highest bitrate/most sonically transparent listening apparatus isn't going to be of any help whatsoever. Your £20,000 Martin Logan's aren't going to make your £150 Cambridge Audio amp sound any better - they're only going to highlight its flaws.

But yeah, if Naproxeno has a better listening experience using FLAC then it doesn't really matter what anybody else thinks. It's his experience.
(, Wed 21 Aug 2019, 22:56, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'm not an Audiophile
but I can definitely hear a difference between MP3 and FLAC. MP3 doesn't have the depth, and the bass and top end sound clearly stripped out, almost tinny. Bluetooth is inconsistent, my car vanilla bluetooth is awful but the stick I use instead is actually not too bad. Wired devices just to seem to have a better tone. I doubt expensive connectors make much difference to ordinary ears though.
(, Wed 21 Aug 2019, 20:23, , Reply)
This is a normal post has no one posted the coat hanger link here yet?

(, Wed 21 Aug 2019, 20:42, , Reply)
This is a normal post The stranglewank one?

(, Wed 21 Aug 2019, 21:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post i get slightly different results when searching 'hi fi coat hanger'
but whatever floats yer boat, man
(, Wed 21 Aug 2019, 21:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post *takes off belt*
BRB
(, Wed 21 Aug 2019, 22:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post Once you learn how to hear it MP3 top end distortion is very easy to hear
It's odd how your ears can learn 'where to look' for artifacts and from then on be tuned into them
(, Thu 22 Aug 2019, 0:14, , Reply)
This is a normal post cocktail party effect ?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocktail_party_effect
also: www.vox.com/2015/3/4/8147377/mp3-compressed-ghosts
(, Thu 22 Aug 2019, 17:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post oh he does
He even launched his own lossless digital music players.
And then, being Neil Young, he made his next album in a |Jack White's 1930's fairground direct-to-wax 2 mins a session booth. Fucking awesome!
www.clashmusic.com/news/neil-young-makes-entire-album-in-jack-whites-recording-booth
(, Wed 21 Aug 2019, 19:13, , Reply)
This is a normal post I went down the audiophile rabbit home a few tears back.
Got the DAC, tube amp, tubes from the 60s back when they were good, Planar magnetic magnetic headphones.

Sounds fucking amazing for the 5 minutes a week a get to listen to them.
#Dadblog
(, Thu 22 Aug 2019, 23:39, , Reply)