The late Hans Roslig did a lot of work on this, and there's massive improvements in reduction of birth rates.
But it remains a fact that the best thing the smug twat in the picture could have done for the environment is not have the daughter he is parading.
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da5id <YOUR SIG HERE>, Sun 27 Oct 2019, 16:10,
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yeah his daughter should be glad she wasn't born in a third world country in the eighties
else it could be geldof or bono parading her about the lucky cow
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artifus is doing it all wrong, Sun 27 Oct 2019, 16:16,
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Ooh you don't want me to get started on Live Aid...
Live Aid total money raised: about $150 million. Slightly less than the cost of a single F117 stealth fighter.
Total world military expenditure 2018: $1,800,000 million ($1.8 trillion)
"Take all that money we spend on weapons and defence each year and instead spend it feeding, clothing and educating the poor of the world - which it would many times over, not one human being excluded - and we can explore space together, both inner and outer, forever, and in peace"
RIP Bill Hicks.
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da5id <YOUR SIG HERE>, Sun 27 Oct 2019, 16:42,
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Bread and circuses for the masses, like the Olympics etc.
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FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Sun 27 Oct 2019, 16:47,
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I heard a number in the 80's
which I feel still holds true, although I have no hard facts that are current.
The cost of housing, feeding, and clothing the world for a year is roughly the same as the spending on the military every two weeks.
I do know that the Iraq war at its height was costing $25 billion a month (including costs like medical for returned vets), at the time adjusted for inflation the entire Apollo program cost $100 billion so for every four months of the Iraq war we could have had an entire moon program, including R&D, training, and 10 moon missions.
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Sun 27 Oct 2019, 19:45,
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"Couldn't we feasibly use that same technology to shoot food at hungry people?"
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now then now then i'm sure there was a lorra good work for charidee
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artifus is doing it all wrong, Mon 28 Oct 2019, 3:14,
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Rosling said it would top out at 11bn
As he said, the birth rate will sort itself out once people are allowed to move out of poverty, and don't have to battle high rates of infant mortality.
This is happening already.
So, while it's true that having a child is the number one factor in determining your life long carbon footprint, it's probably going to be fine from a global population point of view.
Until I hear a convincing reason why not, I'm of the opinion that 11bn people will be fine,provided we get our shit together soon.
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Yes, but increasing inequality is making it impossible to rise out of poverty.
Average wages are rising across the Western world, but mainly because the super rich are raking it in; actual pay for the great majority is static, and compounded by worse access to education, housing, water and healthcare.
I agree that this could all be sorted out, but there's only one country with the will to tackle these thorny issues, and that's China!
(cue the unpopular opinion police)
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da5id <YOUR SIG HERE>, Sun 27 Oct 2019, 17:13,
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Get our shit together?!
We are failing to build adequate housing, transport infrastructure and can't even produce enough food in one of the richest countries. Hoping 'somebody' will sort it out is wishful thinking.
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FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Sun 27 Oct 2019, 18:50,
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should have been more specific I suppose
I meant get our shit together and achieve net zero carbon asap (this was an XR post after all).
And on that alone, I don't expect 'someone' to sort it out, I think everyone will have to push to make it happen.
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