Meanwhile, let's look at the Netherlands and see what we can learn.
Learning things from real data is science.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 21:26, Reply)
Screeching “We must continue to wrap ourselves in cotton wool forever!” isn’t scientific. The vaccines work. That’s science.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 21:55, Reply)
Hospital admission is not the same as long Covid.
Vaccines aren't going to totally protect us until we've protected the whole world.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 22:20, Reply)
A useful rebuttal of long Covid hysteria:
fullfact.org/health/long-covid-layla-moran/
(, Tue 13 Jul 2021, 0:09, Reply)
Your FF article only claims the numbers are lower than that MP claimed, not that there isn't such a syndrome.
The Lancet Respiratory Medicine article says that there is a post acute Covid syndrome, that it is a concern, and that it seems to be in 10 to 20 % of Covid survivors.
www.thelancet.com/article/S2213-2600(21)00031-X/fulltext
Follow the science.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2021, 8:24, Reply)
The margin for error is 200% on the lower estimate? That sounds like numbers being picked out of the air, it does not sound very scientific at all.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2021, 10:56, Reply)
In the article itself, you'll find that 20 % is the number of people with symptoms 5 weeks after recovering from acute covid, and 10 % is the number of people with symptoms 12 weeks after their acute infection.
"Not very scientific at all"? This is the fucking Lancet Respiratory Medicine journal right?
You're telling me to follow the science and you can't be bothered to read the material?
(, Tue 13 Jul 2021, 15:08, Reply)
he's not interested in honest discourse.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2021, 17:48, Reply)
the experience of other surges in cases like the recent sydney outbreak is that there is delay of a week to 10 days before hospital and then ICU admissions rise. covid has a median asymptomatic phase of 5 days. I'd give it another week before you could claim the vaccines are preventing admissions to this subjective point where it's acceptable to most. I hope youre right. However higher vaccination rates were hoped to also significantly reduce transmission and infection rates, and they don't seem to be doing that which is worrying and the cause for their government's alarm. It's rising very fast, infecting the vaccinated and even previous covid victims with the new variant.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 23:11, Reply)