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This is a link post B3tards! I present to you - a window into the future!
Maybe? Many variables makes viromancy hard :(

Covid-19: Dutch PM Rutte 'sorry for easing restrictions too soon'


 (I helped save b3ta! Invisible Wizard - 13th Level Scrote, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 18:43, Reply)
This is a normal post The huge increase in infections has not translated into significantly increased hospitalisations, with no detectable increase in the death rate.
So, what’s the problem?
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 18:54, Reply)
This is a normal post Reality.

(I helped save b3ta! brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 19:02, Reply)
This is a normal post I did just accurately outline the reality of the situation.
You seem to want to pedal the myth that more lockdown and restricted civil liberties will save us from an apocalypse that isn’t going to happen. What will save us from the pandemic is an effective vaccine roll out, which in the UK we have had. Vaccines work. Follow the science. Stop fearmongering in pursuit of some control freak political agenda.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 19:10, Reply)
This is a normal post There there. Do you feel better now?

(I helped save b3ta! brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 20:08, Reply)
This is a normal post Good come back, anti-vax boy.

(I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 20:49, Reply)
This is a normal post You have fun fighting your straw man.
Meanwhile, let's look at the Netherlands and see what we can learn.
Learning things from real data is science.
 (I helped save b3ta! Invisible Wizard - 13th Level Scrote, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 21:26, Reply)
This is a normal post The science is that hospital admissions are way down. The science is that deaths are way, way down.
Screeching “We must continue to wrap ourselves in cotton wool forever!” isn’t scientific. The vaccines work. That’s science.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 21:55, Reply)
This is a normal post idiot
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF4hFfDcV7I
 (I helped save b3ta! artifus is doing it all wrong, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 22:20, Reply)
This is a normal post
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXaXdChPZX0
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Tue 13 Jul 2021, 0:17, Reply)
This is a normal post i wish
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVIev94s7Mo
 (I helped save b3ta! artifus is doing it all wrong, Tue 13 Jul 2021, 0:44, Reply)
This is a normal post Still with the straw men.
Hospital admission is not the same as long Covid.
Vaccines aren't going to totally protect us until we've protected the whole world.
 (I helped save b3ta! Invisible Wizard - 13th Level Scrote, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 22:20, Reply)
This is a normal post Wow! Straw man! I’m worse than Hitler! Blah blah blah.
A useful rebuttal of long Covid hysteria:
fullfact.org/health/long-covid-layla-moran/
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Tue 13 Jul 2021, 0:09, Reply)
This is a normal post I'll see your Full Fact, and raise you The Lancet.
Your FF article only claims the numbers are lower than that MP claimed, not that there isn't such a syndrome.

The Lancet Respiratory Medicine article says that there is a post acute Covid syndrome, that it is a concern, and that it seems to be in 10 to 20 % of Covid survivors.

www.thelancet.com/article/S2213-2600(21)00031-X/fulltext

Follow the science.
 (I helped save b3ta! Invisible Wizard - 13th Level Scrote, Tue 13 Jul 2021, 8:24, Reply)
This is a normal post 10-20%?
The margin for error is 200% on the lower estimate? That sounds like numbers being picked out of the air, it does not sound very scientific at all.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Tue 13 Jul 2021, 10:56, Reply)
This is a normal post That's not an estimate range.
In the article itself, you'll find that 20 % is the number of people with symptoms 5 weeks after recovering from acute covid, and 10 % is the number of people with symptoms 12 weeks after their acute infection.

"Not very scientific at all"? This is the fucking Lancet Respiratory Medicine journal right?
You're telling me to follow the science and you can't be bothered to read the material?
 (I helped save b3ta! Invisible Wizard - 13th Level Scrote, Tue 13 Jul 2021, 15:08, Reply)
This is a normal post He's drunkenly parroting the stuff he hears on Talksport, Facebook, Infowars and the like,
he's not interested in honest discourse.
 (I helped save b3ta! brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Tue 13 Jul 2021, 17:48, Reply)
This is a normal post I think it's a bit early to tell on hospital admission. The surge in cases has only come in the last week, rising exponentially from a falling base of 300 to 10,000 yesterday
the experience of other surges in cases like the recent sydney outbreak is that there is delay of a week to 10 days before hospital and then ICU admissions rise. covid has a median asymptomatic phase of 5 days. I'd give it another week before you could claim the vaccines are preventing admissions to this subjective point where it's acceptable to most. I hope youre right. However higher vaccination rates were hoped to also significantly reduce transmission and infection rates, and they don't seem to be doing that which is worrying and the cause for their government's alarm. It's rising very fast, infecting the vaccinated and even previous covid victims with the new variant.
 (I helped save b3ta! cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 23:11, Reply)
This is a normal post Thanks!
Would you like a glass of water?
 (I helped save b3ta! brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 21:37, Reply)
This is a normal post might watch shaolin soccer again later
it's been a few years
 (I helped save b3ta! artifus is doing it all wrong, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 20:44, Reply)
This is a normal post Here are a few reasons why it might be a problem
www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)01589-0/fulltext?fbclid=IwAR2lblLC0x_lDeLbox4yX7tSleTKf4AtPc7QnYBaor12VGlkVactQYrQ8Ac

I've also not seen data on how vaccination reduces the incidence of long covid - based on people I know who have it, it's not something I'd risk if I could possibly help it.
 (I helped save b3ta! tarka_dall Like normal dall, only a bit more spicy, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 20:01, Reply)
This is a normal post Long Covid is pretty horrible
Plenty of people get long symptoms without needing hospital.

Massive future burden on the NHS.
 (I helped save b3ta! Invisible Wizard - 13th Level Scrote, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 20:12, Reply)
This is a normal post I wouldn't be pronouncing on this subject with anything like the confidence you see from others online
And I've been working in healthcare for over three decades.

Still, y'all carry on
 (I helped save b3ta! TownsendsPublisher is all gravy baby, Tue 13 Jul 2021, 14:13, Reply)
This is a normal post I suspect it is more a political stance than medical.
Too many facts spoil a clear assertion.
 (I helped save b3ta! FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Tue 13 Jul 2021, 19:45, Reply)
This is a normal post It's just so odd, seeing a nation's PM say sorry they fucked up.

(I helped save b3ta! fred zeppelin (Taylor's version), Mon 12 Jul 2021, 18:54, Reply)
This is a normal post Johnson will claim full responsibility while pinning the blame on everybody else as usual.
Waffle waffle we're all sick of covid, rhubarb rhubarb get covid done, errrrr - sitque cadavera alte innumeri!
 (I helped save b3ta! brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 19:02, Reply)
This is a normal post that's numberwang!

(I helped save b3ta! artifus is doing it all wrong, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 20:29, Reply)
This is a normal post It would be a good reason
Why the govt. is shifting mask wearing from compulsory to being personal choice so they can deny responsibly when it goes pear-shaped.
I notice that their wording that the vaccine has "severed" the link between cases and hospitalisation/deaths has suddenly changed to "weakened".
 (I helped save b3ta! tarka_dall Like normal dall, only a bit more spicy, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 22:16, Reply)
This is a normal post It seems like a main responsibility of management is to avoid responsibility.

(I helped save b3ta! FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Mon 12 Jul 2021, 22:25, Reply)
This is a normal post cadavera?

(Mehitabel_Itrang, Tue 13 Jul 2021, 10:25, Reply)
This is a normal post Huh. Google translate sucks.

(I helped save b3ta! brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Tue 13 Jul 2021, 14:02, Reply)
This is a normal post Thank you for that : nice to see a PM owning a mistake...
Particularly after Nadhim Zahawi's train-wreck on Sunday trying to justify Boris' misleading of Parliament during PMQs over "severed" vs "weakened" ('the link with hospitalisations') : www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000xwvy/the-andrew-marr-show-11072021 :-0 (from around 52')
 (Seumas MacPadraig, Tue 13 Jul 2021, 19:10, Reply)