I remember seeing a video once with a bunch of folk getting all outraged because two white blokes had dressed up as Jules and Vincent from Pulp Fiction. Or that poor Australian kid who was basically getting death threats for dressing up as his favourite footballer who just happens to be black.
There's absolutely no place for people painting their faces in order to mock ethnic minorities. But there seems to be a lot of pearl clutching for the sake of pearl clutching in regards to blackface.
(, Thu 19 Aug 2021, 14:57, Reply)
It seems a lot deeper than mere conformity.
(, Thu 19 Aug 2021, 16:29, Reply)
Michael Jackson is an interesting one, mind. I assume it's permissible for a white person to portray MJ from the 'Bad' era onwards, but portraying 'Thriller' era MJ and earlier would be a huge no-no, despite the fact that he always identified as black?
Anyway, like you say, hardly worth the bother. Nobody is going to die because they can't dress up as MR. T or Bob Marley anymore.
(, Thu 19 Aug 2021, 17:00, Reply)
I'm not sure he knew who he was, a person who appeared to have complex issues.
(, Thu 19 Aug 2021, 17:29, Reply)
If you want to do a really accurate Mr. T cosplay though... IDK. Seems problematic, but it shouldn't be. If you're blacking up to mock black people, then surely it's the mocking that's at issue more than the makeup.
It's not really the same issue as a non-Muslim woman dressing up in a burka.
If a Mongolian wants to wear sock suspenders, or a Chadian wants to wear a bowler hat, I do not feel my culture is being harmed or threatened. If a Mauri wants a Celtic tattoo, so what? If a Welsh Patagonian wants to wear a bindi to a Jewish wedding where the Micronesian groom wears a Scottish kilt, fine.
(, Thu 19 Aug 2021, 14:57, Reply)
Just because "it shouldn't be" doesn't mean it won't be interpreted as at least insensitive, if not deeply offensive.
Yes, get an actor of the particular skin colour/accent required.
(, Thu 19 Aug 2021, 16:23, Reply)
but I still think there's a difference between a white person blacking up to essentially take a black person's job, or to misrepresent them (e.g. a minstrel show), and getting upset over people wearing clothes for their aesthetic value without attaching religious significance to them. I don't think it's the same issue.
(, Thu 19 Aug 2021, 19:27, Reply)
Yeah, time place intent etc.
If I have African ceremonial masks in my house, it's not because I'm pretending I'm a witch doctor, it's because I thought they were cool and bought them on my gap year doing charidee work.
Or whatever. Just dont be a dick.
(, Fri 20 Aug 2021, 6:55, Reply)
there are many things I'd like to do but I choose not to because it would be offensive and hurtful to people but there are other things I will make a stand for.
Do I really want to dress up as another race? Well, maybe it'd be fun to dress as someone with different colour skin on some occasion but do I want to enough to cause offence? Nop.
Do I want to be able to have sex with any adult (or adults) who wants to have sex with me? Yep, and god help anyone who gets between me and the person/people I want nookie times with. Actually, they'll probably just get caught up in it too and have a ruddy good time.
(, Thu 19 Aug 2021, 15:10, Reply)