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This is a link post Yes, this was me after taking the EV for a tour of the forecourts yesterday.
I get 600 miles out of it for about a tenner.
(, Tue 28 Sep 2021, 22:59, Reply)
This is a normal post You can probably add all of Ireland onto the smug list
We have no shortages here. I have a cunning plan... I'll get a tanker, nip onto the ferry overnight and set up a little petrol station at the side of the road near the docks. Then nip back again to refill and repeat.
Winner.
(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 0:36, Reply)
This is a normal post How would you feel about adopting someone for passport purposes?
Asking for a friend.
(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 0:59, Reply)
This is a normal post This could probably be arranged.

(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 9:58, Reply)
This is a normal post Form an orderly queue!
My IRL name is convincingly Oirish, I reckon this could work.
(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 14:54, Reply)
This is a normal post Mine is too, on both sides.
The story goes that my distaff ancestor fled to England because he'd murdered someone. Alas, it was too far back for me to get grandfathered for a passport.
(, Thu 30 Sep 2021, 6:53, Reply)
This is a normal post Suppose it makes a change from cleaning red diesel.

(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 1:20, Reply)
This is a normal post The only people using that stuff were from "up the country" any local with any sense
avoided it like the plague due to the huge amount of damage it would do to your engine - not to mention the customs boyo's who had random check points setup to dip for it and then "seize" your vehicle and would then release it for a fee (and cash only thanks)
(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 10:01, Reply)
This is a normal post Ah, I guess the process removed any additives.

(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 13:53, Reply)
This is a normal post You only posted that to be smug on here too.

(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 1:22, Reply)
This is a normal post Yup.

(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 8:51, Reply)
This is a normal post bindun

(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 9:00, Reply)
This is a normal post Just wait 'til the battery explodes.

(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 13:48, Reply)
This is a normal post Shit, I never thought of that
I'm driving around in a vehicle powered by a dangerous flammable substance!
(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 14:57, Reply)
This is a normal post Difference is, liquid fuels need oxygen to explode.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=u2F9HKZ5VzA

Nutter driving burning lorry at 1.22.
(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 15:36, Reply)
This is a normal post I'm aware of automotive battery safety, thanks
It's part of my job, working in electrical safety certification.
(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 18:12, Reply)
This is a normal post Oops, I forget these things.

(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 19:47, Reply)
This is a normal post do /links's brexitwats feel any sort of remorse or shame at this point I wonder.
Or do they still have someone else to blame for it all
(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 10:32, Reply)
This is a normal post Why are there massive HGV driver shortages in Germany, Poland, France, Spain and also even outside the sunlit uplands of the EU, like the USA, Benny?
Do you feel no shame about your endless bullshit?
(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 11:14, Reply)
This is a normal post perhaps you could explain why their driver shortages dont seem to be translating into fuel shortages

(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 15:47, Reply)
This is a normal post You tell me.
Sincere question.
I think it’s a cultural thing. We appear to be a nation of panic buyers. Panic whipped up by the media.
“OMG there are queues at a few petrol stations! Let’s lead with that story on all bulletins.”
“OMG they’re queueing for petrol on the TV! Let’s fill up now.”
“OMG those queues will make great pictures for tomorrow’s front page, and we get to blame in on Brexit!”
There are also a hell of a lot more cars on the road now than thirty years ago, but an awful lot less petrol stations.

They were panic buying bog rolls in Australia weeks before it started here. Social media meant many of us were aware of that over here, and sure enough, it spread.

We were getting very short of HGV drivers here (and globally) long before the referendum was even called. Then Covid hit. All non food shops closed, so there was a massive drop in demand for HGV drivers for an extended period. Many took this a reason to quit, or go home if they were from abroad. It’s a shit job, and badly paid. They didn’t need any more reasons to bin it.

I won’t bore you with the finer details of the inadequacy of Just In Time Inventories in coping with demand spikes.

Blame Brexit if you like, but it’s very obviously bullshit.
(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 20:05, Reply)
This is a normal post Australian loo rolls.
Not, as it might seem at first glance, our government making it much harder for foreign drivers to work here. Glorious
(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 20:59, Reply)
This is a normal post Really? A passing comment on how panic spreads is all you got from that?
You’re like a flat-earther.
(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 21:11, Reply)
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I doubt they'll change their mind or even acknowledge it, the sand is too warm around their heads

they'll probably use what about-ism and say that other countries have massive issue as well without no actual information to back that up
(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 13:03, Reply)
This is a normal post Here's your actual information.
This isn't a new problem. Driver shortages have been going for years. It's got fuck all to dowith brexit, it's what happens if you underpay people for a shitty job.

www.ti-insight.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/European-Driver-Shortages-LB.pdf
(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 14:09, Reply)
This is a normal post We're doing better than Poland then.

(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 14:26, Reply)
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thanks

from the article (www.ti-insight.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/European-Driver-Shortages-LB.pdf) .....
"Driver shortage in the UK reaching ‘crisis point’
Truck drivers are lost in a sort of Bermuda triangle of Brexit, pandemic and tax reforms/peak seasons,
leading to a pressing driver shortage in the UK.
Brexit effectively ended recruitment from the EU, making it legally impossible to recruit foreign HGV
drivers. The COVID-19 pandemic created a backlog of tests and saw around 15,000 Eastern European
driver returning home. Finally, newly introduced tax reforms exacerbated the exodus of EU drivers
from the UK which will only get worse over the coming summer.
From 2010 to 2017 the number of EU nationals driving HGV in the UK rose from 10,000 to 45,000, and
fell to 42,000 in early 2020, possibly related to Brexit. From March to June 2020, the number of EU HGV
drivers declined by another 15,000, to 25,000, recovering only slightly to 28,000 by the end of the year.
Additionally, the pandemic is also believed to have accelerated the retirement rate in the industry.
The so-called IR35 reforms by UK’s HM Revenue & Customs further exacerbated the issue. The
reforms required all contractors with a turnover of £10m or 50 staff to pay full tax and national
insurance on their drivers, starting in April 2021. Even though this was widely welcomed by industry
leaders, the reforms were adding to the shortage, who reject the drop in incomes that come with
regularising their tax status. Research suggests that around 12,000-15,000 EU drivers left partly due to
the pandemic and another 5,000-10,000 left due to the tax changes. "

so Brexit and fucking IR35 is the UK own goal
(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 14:30, Reply)
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"From 2010 to 2017 the number of EU nationals driving HGV in the UK rose from 10,000 to 45,000, and
fell to 42,000 in early 2020, possibly related to Brexit."

3000 possibly left because of Brexit.
Britain is short 60000 drivers.
Germany needs another 50000. Poland over 120000.

The issue clearly isn't brexit. The job simply isn't attractive enough.
(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 16:10, Reply)
This is a normal post weirdly all those other countries dont seem to be having problems getting petrol to forecourts

(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 16:18, Reply)
This is a normal post You really are the British equivalent of the MAGA hat wearing redneck saying 'thangs Obama'.
We don't have a problem here, because here the public wasn't goaded into panic buying by sensationalist media.
If you have a system based on 'just in time' logistics, it doesn't take much to collapse the whole thing.
(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 17:04, Reply)
This is a normal post ah I see, the pro-EU media is engineering it all because they hate the tories and brexit
You really don't live here do you
(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 17:20, Reply)
This is a normal post It's like arguing with a jehova's witness.
I'm done.
(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 17:48, Reply)
This is a normal post We wish

(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 21:41, Reply)
This is a normal post Jehovas Witnesses are famous for their reliance of facts and insistence on recognizing reality, right?

(, Thu 30 Sep 2021, 12:35, Reply)
This is a normal post
it's strange why you stopped there at 42000?

"...fell to 42,000 in early 2020, possibly related to Brexit. From March to June 2020, the number of EU HGV
drivers declined by another 15,000, to 25,000, recovering only slightly to 28,000 by the end of the year."

so the number at the end is not 42000, but 28000

also add to the Brexit benefit list of HGV drivers having to go through through the monstrous lorry parks takes much longer, thus decreasing the availability of drivers - adds to the problem

IR35 is a bloody pain along with the loan charge, with HMRC implementing retrospective taxation
(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 21:31, Reply)
This is a normal post You'd know that your link doesn't support your argument, had you bothered to read it.
:EDIT: What he said. ^
(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 14:32, Reply)
This is a normal post But underpaying people for a shitty job is what freedom of movement is all about!
If we can move goods freely around the world with common international standards, then they'll be made by the cheapest competent manufacturers.
If we can move people freely around the world, then jobs will be done by the cheapest competent people.
And the cheapest competent people and manufacturers are usually the ones in the poorest regions, who then get richer by taking our jobs purchase orders. In principle, everyone benefits - at least that's the free market aim.

But if we end freedom of movement for people and products, then we have to pay an acceptable rate to our local providers, or pay a premium for the movement of people and products over the borders.

And if we try to keep labour and stuff as cheap as it became under a system of free movement, but without the free movement, we run into problems.
(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 14:53, Reply)
This is a normal post So should we seek to end freedom of movement between the richest and poorest regions of the UK too?

(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 15:37, Reply)
This is a normal post Might stop the holiday homes problem.

(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 16:02, Reply)
This is a normal post Shit, I'm not advocating this shambles
Obviously we should be post-scarcity by now, in happy nonheirarchical communes and earthship houses.
(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 17:38, Reply)
This is a normal post Grant Shapps finally admits Brexit was ‘a factor’ in fuel crisis
metro.co.uk/2021/09/28/petrol-shortage-grant-shapps-admits-brexit-is-a-factor-in-crisis-15329129/
(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 15:06, Reply)
This is a normal post Still pleasantly surprised at how easy it's going.
Was prepared for much more hassle.
(, Fri 1 Oct 2021, 12:42, Reply)
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(, Wed 29 Sep 2021, 22:25, Reply)