Hmmm. Nessa/Everard.
One was murdered by some pizza delivery guy. The other was done by a copper that regularly carried fire arms around “vips”, was nicknamed “the rapist” by colleagues, and was a known flasher. Both deaths are equally tragic. Thus far one killer’s background is far more shocking, and demonstrates those paid and empowered to protect us are not always fit to be so. The other guy’s background proves that you should never tip the pizza delivery guy.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 3 Oct 2021, 1:22,
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It's a lads bantz 'culture' with no snitching and low empathy.
They were never going to report him, not in their interest, career wise.
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FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Sun 3 Oct 2021, 1:42,
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Yeah. And Domino’s don’t give a shit either.
But, you know, racism, innit.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 3 Oct 2021, 3:02,
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Still, I reckon that (collectively) we wouldn't all be as shocked and saddened by the case if the victim had been a little less pretty and white.
Perhaps I'm just being cynical, but I suspect a huge amount of the public reaction to the crime is not so much based on who the perpetrator is, but instead who the victim was.
I mean, besides the perpetrators occupations, there's very little difference between the cases - Both young women killed in pre-meditated attacks by men they didn't know whilst walking alone at night.
And Couzens was really just a glorified security guard. Calling him a 'Police Officer' in the traditional sense is like calling an Army Chef a 'Member of the Armed Forces'. Technically true, but not the first thing that springs to mind.
I should be clear that I'm not attempting to make the Everard case seem any less awful than it is. The footage of the Couzens interview messed with me in ways that the countless murder/suicide/industrial accident videos I've seen over the past couple of decades haven't. I just find it curious that for a society apparently so outwardly invested in equality, we still attribute so much value to a photograph of somebody we've never met.
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You’re projecting. It’s insidious, unpleasant and tedious.
“And Couzens was really just a glorified security guard.”
Really? I think he was a fully fledged copper and you’re a cunt for finding some sort of mitigation in whatever it is you perceive him to be.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 3 Oct 2021, 13:21,
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My understanding is (and I haven't looked at it in detail) that Couzens first worked for the Civil Nuclear Constabulary. That job involves standing outside the AWE with a gun and looking heavy. He then transferred to the Met, where his job was standing outside embassies with a gun and looking heavy.
There are some strange police forces in the UK, such as Murky Tunnels Police en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mersey_Tunnels_Police , which is a bit like the Humber Bridge having its own force.
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Well, pardon me for expecting higher standards of the police.
When you put it that way, it’s quite understandable that the police seemingly overlooked their colleague, who they called “the rapist”, flashing and generally being a wrongun.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 3 Oct 2021, 19:24,
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