Was Googling about the somewhat disproportionate amount of coverage the Sarah Everard case has been receiving in comparison to the Sabina Nessa case
And discovered that it's a recognised phenomenon - unsurprisingly.
Missing white woman syndrome - Wikipedia
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Please antienbiggen it.
I suppose it's too much to ask for a spell chkecer.
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Wow, SKOL!
disproportionate? Lot of women getting killed on the streets, and for a cop to be the perp is bad enough, then finding out he was a known nasty piece of work is pretty shocking.
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simbosan is too tired, Sun 3 Oct 2021, 0:27,
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Do you reckon she would have had as much coverage if she looked like she smoked 60 a day
And had just spent her last fiver in the local Ladbrokes?
I'm not saying that it's wrong that she got so much coverage, but more questioning why she got so much compared to other similar cases.
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Don't diss my Mum's life choices
She's walked a hard road!
(he probably wouldn't have felt like raping her anyway)
edit: it does sound a bit like your point is, she's hot so it doesn't matter as much
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simbosan is too tired, Sun 3 Oct 2021, 0:33,
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It's more: "We're only interested because she's pleasing to the eye.", I reckon.
Almost as if the fact she's pretty, white and probably not on benefits makes her somehow less deserving of a violent, rapey death than somebody of lower social standing.
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Of course it is, the pictures look better.
See also, Dalit women, Black women, Inuit women etc.
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FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Sun 3 Oct 2021, 1:52,
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Terrible thing to say about Shannon.
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FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Sun 3 Oct 2021, 1:34,
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Hmmm. Nessa/Everard.
One was murdered by some pizza delivery guy. The other was done by a copper that regularly carried fire arms around “vips”, was nicknamed “the rapist” by colleagues, and was a known flasher. Both deaths are equally tragic. Thus far one killer’s background is far more shocking, and demonstrates those paid and empowered to protect us are not always fit to be so. The other guy’s background proves that you should never tip the pizza delivery guy.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 3 Oct 2021, 1:22,
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It's a lads bantz 'culture' with no snitching and low empathy.
They were never going to report him, not in their interest, career wise.
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FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Sun 3 Oct 2021, 1:42,
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Yeah. And Domino’s don’t give a shit either.
But, you know, racism, innit.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 3 Oct 2021, 3:02,
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Still, I reckon that (collectively) we wouldn't all be as shocked and saddened by the case if the victim had been a little less pretty and white.
Perhaps I'm just being cynical, but I suspect a huge amount of the public reaction to the crime is not so much based on who the perpetrator is, but instead who the victim was.
I mean, besides the perpetrators occupations, there's very little difference between the cases - Both young women killed in pre-meditated attacks by men they didn't know whilst walking alone at night.
And Couzens was really just a glorified security guard. Calling him a 'Police Officer' in the traditional sense is like calling an Army Chef a 'Member of the Armed Forces'. Technically true, but not the first thing that springs to mind.
I should be clear that I'm not attempting to make the Everard case seem any less awful than it is. The footage of the Couzens interview messed with me in ways that the countless murder/suicide/industrial accident videos I've seen over the past couple of decades haven't. I just find it curious that for a society apparently so outwardly invested in equality, we still attribute so much value to a photograph of somebody we've never met.
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You’re projecting. It’s insidious, unpleasant and tedious.
“And Couzens was really just a glorified security guard.”
Really? I think he was a fully fledged copper and you’re a cunt for finding some sort of mitigation in whatever it is you perceive him to be.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 3 Oct 2021, 13:21,
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My understanding is (and I haven't looked at it in detail) that Couzens first worked for the Civil Nuclear Constabulary. That job involves standing outside the AWE with a gun and looking heavy. He then transferred to the Met, where his job was standing outside embassies with a gun and looking heavy.
There are some strange police forces in the UK, such as Murky Tunnels Police en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mersey_Tunnels_Police , which is a bit like the Humber Bridge having its own force.
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Well, pardon me for expecting higher standards of the police.
When you put it that way, it’s quite understandable that the police seemingly overlooked their colleague, who they called “the rapist”, flashing and generally being a wrongun.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 3 Oct 2021, 19:24,
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Disproportionate?
Regrettably the Sabina Nessa case is all too common. You’ll hear similar stories every year.
However the killing of Sarah Everard is, I believe, unique in my lifetime for being committed by a serving (and notably, armed) police officer abusing their tools, training, and the position of power that we as the public grant them.
Beyond that though, the series of pronouncements over the last few days by the Met show that they are institutionally unaware of how to stop it happening again. Their vetting procedures not only allowed this man to join the force, but further allowed him to be given a firearm, and yet their solution has been to advise the public to not come along quietly (I.e. to resist arrest, a crime in and of itself), or to wave down a fucking bus.
TL;DR: It’s about much more than just the crime.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Sun 3 Oct 2021, 1:44,
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given that he's going to spend a lifetime behind bars, I guess we can only hope that the encounter lived up to his expectations
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sun 3 Oct 2021, 2:21,
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I’m not sure that’ll be a very long time unless he’s in solitary.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 3 Oct 2021, 2:55,
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Seeking information that confirms your beliefs is also a recognised phenomenon
Oh well, we all look for reasons to be outraged on a slow news day
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Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Sun 3 Oct 2021, 5:38,
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'Outraged' is maybe a bit strong.
I just find it interesting that people attach so much perceived value to victims based purely on what they look like.
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This is another one of your attempts to prove that everyone's as racist as you are isn't it?
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