to shift gears, this tweet gave me a smile
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sat 15 Jan 2022, 23:00,
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As did the SNP, Labour, the Lib Dems, The Greens and just about every other political entity in the UK. - probably
I'd put money on the author of this scribble likely not following the rules to the letter regarding social gatherings, either.
That's not to say that I'm admonishing any of these people, just that if it honestly came as a shock that the Tories weren't following their own rules, then they're either a bit dim, a bit naive, or both.
I'm an incredibly solitary individual. I only really have one person that I regard as a truly close friend and don't really socialise beyond them and their immediate social circle. I like it that way. I don't drink, do drugs, have kids, prescribe to religion, watch football or really partake in many of the usual social activities that people traditionally enjoy, but even I found it hard going being cut off from the outside world to the degree that we were for so long. Fuck knows how normal people managed it!
Boris is a fucking clown, but there are far more important governmental indiscretions in regards to the Coronavirus pandemic than Bojo and his pals having a few drinks together. We should be focusing on those.
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ah, the "but he's doing it too, Miss" defence, employed to school children the world over to excuse bad behaviour
But I'd make two salient points
* we expect leaders and those making the rules for others to abide by to at least fucking follow them themselves if they expect and penalise us to. If you can't do that, don't be a leader then
* they weren't having a secret visit to their sick nan who they hadn't been able to see in months and it just got too much, dammit. they were getting sloshed in parties with the people they see everyday, anyway. Dont play the "big sacrifice" with these fuckers. It wasn't, they could just have easily not broken the rules and still physically seen and talked to them each day. They did it because they thought the rules don't apply to them, they're for the plebs
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sun 16 Jan 2022, 0:09,
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To be fair
A substantial portion of the populace uses that defence.
Of course it is for the plebs, Boris feels he is an exception and will therefore foster a culture of that.
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Sun 16 Jan 2022, 0:20,
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Like I said, I'm not admonishing them.
The old managerial mantra of "Never ask an employee to perform a task you wouldn't be prepared to perform yourself" is very, very apt in this situation. They were setting the example to which they expected us all to follow, and the fact that they broke those rules so soon after setting them, and believing they wouldn't get found out (!) is beyond moronic.
I just find this (largely) manufactured outrage over these parties a bit disingenuous. Did we really believe that they were following their own rules? I bloody didn't.
I suppose a part of the upset is in the confirmation of those suspicions. But still. The private contracts cronyism is a much more serious issue than 'partygate', and it's being swept under the rug completely by all this nonsense.
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I take your point that having a party in breach of regulations isn't the worse thing they've done
for me, like trump's near continuous dickishness while in office, this hardly moved the needle in my already shit opinion of them
but I don't think the anger is manufactured. You said yourself how difficult it was not seeing your close friends. A lot of people across britain have made similar sacrifices, and it has been one of the hardest things they've done in their lives.
So when they see the very leader and party in power that directed them to make this sacrifice, and many of us have followed the rules, ignore them for something as trivial as a work piss-up, that outrage isnt manufactured.
And while there will be hypocrites getting sanctimonious like there is with most things especially on the internet, there's a shitload of people who have followed the rules and done it hard only to have this shoved in their faces, and their anger is very real
Anyway, it was more for the billy bragg joke than the sentiment that I posted
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sun 16 Jan 2022, 0:30,
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No, but most of us are selfish cunts when it boils down to it.
It's just human nature.
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except it's not.
and yeah yeah libertarians will bang on that that's our instinct, but it's not. for every cunt acting selfishly, there are more behaving decently.
sure, people aren't saints, but most people did the right thing.
are you that sockcooker bloke?
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Not really, I'd guess at intermittently altruistic/selfish depending on the situation.
As usual, it's probably a spectrum of behaviour.
Being completely selfish is almost a pathology in itself.
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Sun 16 Jan 2022, 1:35,
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Yeah human nature is to be selfish which is why we never developed communities or got influenced by kin selection or anything like that.
It's why most mothers eat their newborn babies and why as a species we place no value on family and friendship. Yes indeed, all the evidence supports the argument that human nature is selfishness.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Sun 16 Jan 2022, 14:11,
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You sound like a right laugh.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sun 16 Jan 2022, 0:39,
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Fuck off
My wife wasn't allowed me by her side during the main bits of child birth (that's the bit where a woman has something outlandish come out of her foof [special lady garden] where in fairly recent years she just did a die). Where it's really important to do a big relax but she was just surrounded by strangers.
Fuck off you childish non-lived twat about your theoretical labour this, tories that.
If you're going to lead a team you need to be absolutely above all that and be above it all.
Oh jolly oh haha he's such a cad etc fuck off and lead the country. It's that the best we've got?!
China - that man is crushing a country of 1.4 billion and on track to be absolute leader completely controlling each one's life.
Russian - richest man ever despite gdp of less than japan, Italy, France South, korea and Canada...
Uk - some clown who does a big haha, oh jolly good old bean, gives priority PPE deals to his cabinet's buddies, went to eton and recited a kipling poem in Myanmar and lies shamelessly while taking bungs to do up his work address.
It is embarrassing.
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Do you think your lack of social contact explains your regular outbursts on here?
Have you considered that using /links as your therapist might not be very healthy behaviour?
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Could I just interrupt?
I thought the Twitter link was a nice joke! Made me smile too.
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Varmint, Sun 16 Jan 2022, 9:09,
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Cheers
given that there's been dozens of jokes for the last few weeks about it, not sure why some chose this twitter joke to rehash the morality of it
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sun 16 Jan 2022, 13:51,
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Turns out the labours did too.
12ft.io/proxy?q=https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/01/13/keir-starmer-branded-absolute-hypocrite-drinking-staff-lockdown
Politicians are all twunts? Who knew...
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I didn't think anyone here would be moronic enough to believe that
these two scenarios are the same.
I was sure someone would try to troll with it, however.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Sun 16 Jan 2022, 14:15,
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I must be thick as fuck then
Because while it's definitely not ok for the pricks in the blue ties to do it every night for weeks I'm struggling to see why everyone is ready to jump in and defend the pricks in the red ties when they do it.
I'll just be over here, not pissing on any of them if I see them on fire.
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Labour and Lib-Dems aren't making the rules or enforcing them.
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Sun 16 Jan 2022, 21:54,
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This, for a start^
Also, a takeaway and a lager for a working dinner in an office is not quite the same as a suitcase full of booze, wine and cheese, 100 invitations sent out under the guise of sensitive state secrets, etc., etc., etc.
Funge, you've made yourself an agent for Operation Save Big Dog by spreading this water muddying bullshit. Like 'Oh they're all just as bad as each other.' Bullshit. Tories are the worst - the most corrupt, the most cynical, we all know this.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Sun 16 Jan 2022, 22:08,
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Or following them
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The_cold_stare Coming here only when very, very bored, Sun 16 Jan 2022, 22:39,
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Of course
I guess it's the old problem, the set of those seeking power intersects with the people most likely to be corrupted by it.
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Sun 16 Jan 2022, 23:15,
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This
They're all twunts. It's self selecting.
And if king twat does resign, his successor can't possibly be less competent, so it's a bit like begging for a harder fight.
Surely leave shithead in place until an election and then remind everyone about the cheese and wine.
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Trouble is, the media is very forgetful and emotional reactions wane.
Or keep kicking them out when they misbehave, until it becomes unprofitable.
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Mon 17 Jan 2022, 0:39,
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It's not SO MUCH public indignation about people having a few drinks after work
what's so very damaging is the way the whole situation has played out.
The first monumental fuck up was Johnson briefing againstCummings when he left. The whole tory party and anyone who knows anything about politics nearly feinted - Cummings was in the centre of all the shit and knew where all the bodies were buried. Pissing him off was one of the most dumb-ass things anyone could do.
We're now seeing that kind of mentality to its logical conclusion
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garold you're on mute I SAID YOU'RE ON MUTE, Mon 17 Jan 2022, 9:49,
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The next thing is the way the No.10 and the whole tory party are lying
instead of facing an irrefutable fact head-on they lie. They lie and attack and rely on the press saying "well it's this or Jeremy Corbyn so what'cha gonna do? Which worked great .... until Kier Starmer.
The current tory front bench was forged in the fire of Brexit when project leave lied.Tjeu lied and attacked and if the press was talking about their lies project leave was were winning because the talks was not about the opposing point of view. You can also give the public the choice about which lie they believe and which lie they choose to decide is a lie.
That's who they are. That's how they work. It's a great campaign strategy, it's very effective, but it has its limitations.
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garold you're on mute I SAID YOU'RE ON MUTE, Mon 17 Jan 2022, 9:56,
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Cummings is going to keep on leaking against the tories
and especially against Johnson but it'll reflect on the tories because he's their leader and they've been in power for 12 years. Cummings will leak some more shit. No.10 will deny it, then it'll be proven and no.10 will say it doesn't matter. It will be the news for weeks. It would not used to have happened because previous administrations when faced with an undeniable fuckup would own it, apologise for it and hope the public would move on. Which, often, it would.
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garold you're on mute I SAID YOU'RE ON MUTE, Mon 17 Jan 2022, 9:59,
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Personally I think it's a bit rich and hypocritical
all this "Boris Johnson acted like a rule-breaking cunt" bollocks. That's who he was sold to us as, the tories hate him, they've always known he's a narcissistic cunt who will throw anyone under a bus to save his skin - fucking hell they fired him for lying to the party leader. They voted him in because he's charming and a good laugh and appeals to people like a posh game show host. They knew that in a crisis he'd be as much use as a compostable condom but they wanted to win an election. We knew this yet the British public voted for him and now there's widespread handbag clutching when the cunt we voted for behaved like a cunt.
Fucking get over yourselves. The fact that this government has taken away our right to protest? The fact it can overrule the judiciary? That they can take away a UK citizens citizenship without course to redress or even have to explain why? This shit doesn't matter I guess but the fact some twats had a few drinks does. Fuck you, The UK. Fuck you all. You have your priorities to fucked up you/we deserve this cunt.
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garold you're on mute I SAID YOU'RE ON MUTE, Mon 17 Jan 2022, 10:04,
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