Jean Charles de Menezes would be alive today if the prick had walked to work instead of taking the tube, seeing as we're victim blaming
This is the important thing to focus on, and not that 5 masked government agents pinnned down a citizen in the street, removed his holstered weapon, then executed him by shooting him 10 times, followed by the government immediately releasing a completely invented false narrative before any investigation that was quickly contradicted by the video evidence, for the second time in as many weeks, and all this happened without any consequences for those involved or those who lied.
I go on a nice (bakingly hot) summer holiday to return to Tony jizzing his rightwing talking points over links
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Thu 29 Jan 2026, 11:28,
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Not executed, mate.
That's liberal screamy emosh hyperbole.
Also, criticising lefties doesn't automatically make you right-wing. You've learned that approach from too much social media exposure, I suspect. Believe it or not, it's still possible to be critical of both sides.
(, Thu 29 Jan 2026, 11:36, Reply)
I notice you call left wing people lefties, liberal and whatever emosh is and are very eager to criticise them
what do you call right wing people?
And what do you have to say that is critical of right wing people?
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Thu 29 Jan 2026, 12:49,
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People at both ends of the spectrum are absolute fuckwits.
They're also the ones quickest to polarise the issue and forget/ignore the middle ground.
Left/right-leaning is fine. It's a sliding scale at the end of the day, not two sides of a coin, but the further you get to one extreme or the other, the more moronic and blinkered you become.
The radical left assume they're superior, the radical right assume they're superior, and any identification or sympathy directed towards the 'baddies' automatically makes you a traitor or a shill.
This excessive, hardline partisanship we've adopted from America is going to be our ruin. Fuck me, we've already got groups of the bellends marching on Trafalgar Square, painting St George's Crosses on roundabouts and idolising Charlie Kirk
The kneejerk reaction that you and My Name had to my opinion of the situation and your willingness to label the shooting an 'execution' shows the same kind of radicalisation, just towards the other extreme.
And let's not forget that the left are pushing the Ideal Victim narrative in favour of Alex Pretti just as hard (if not harder) while the right are pushing the 'Leftist Proto-terrorist' angle. The truth is almost always somewhere in the middle.
(, Thu 29 Jan 2026, 13:18, Reply)
I am My Name, you are replying to me, if you check
and I never said they executed him, I said "they just break the law, killing with impunity". My main point was that the dead guy did nothing illegal and idiotic or not, what he did do "should not mean a death sentence from federal employees".
That seems to get you upset for some reason, and I do not regard it as a knee jerk reaction personally. If you're not upset, you're making rather long posts for someone who isn't...
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Thu 29 Jan 2026, 15:39,
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You are right though in one aspect
Executed specifically means to carry out a death sentence imposed by a legal authority as punishment for a crime and the most recent guy hadn't done anything illegal at all. Execution occurs within a legal system where the person has typically been convicted of a crime, and there was no judge or jury, no legal process, he was just gunned down in the street.
Which of course makes it even worse than if he had been executed. Thank you for making the point that calling it execution is watering down what actually happened.
The term "executed" carries the connotation of official, sanctioned killing following due process, which distinguishes it from murder, so therefore it was murder.
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Thu 29 Jan 2026, 12:54,
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you are right wing, tony, I'm not sure why you sometimes like to playact and not being one. Perhaps you have some sense that B3ta isn't like some of the dark corners of the internet you inhabit. Perhaps you're delusional. But there's hardly one rwnj/maga opinion ive not heard you entertain at some stage. Everyone the daily mail hates you also hate. This irrelevant victim blaming is exactly what magaworld is trying to shift the focus to right now to distract from the grim reality. I think one of the first time I encountered you, though I can't be arsed tracking who changes their usernames or was banned so it may well have been earlier, you were backing the notion that Putin's invasion of the Ukraine was justified as denazification, a comically bullshit casus belli so absurd that even Putin had already stopped mentioning by then. let me see... b3ta.com/links/1583177
Anyway, sometimes I enjoy it, you save me trouble in having to look directly at that shit myself to find out how they're spinning it, when we have you to regurgitate it. but I have my limits
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Thu 29 Jan 2026, 13:09,
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You've been radicalised by the left significantly more than I've been radicalised by the right, mate. I can promise you that.
Also you seem to have missed the second paragraph of that reply you linked as part of your totally bodacious gotcha. Never mind, eh? It's hard to read through tears, sometimes. Maybe it'll help if it's in bold?
'That's not to say that having a higher than average incidence of hate crime is justification for invasion by another nation with equally low (if not, lower) tolerance of people that look, speak, fuck or pray differently. But still, it's maybe important to realise that being bombed doesn't make you any less of a cunt. They *absolutely* don't deserve the bollocking they've been on the receiving end of. But it seems the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.'
You're falling for the Ideal Victim game, again.
(, Thu 29 Jan 2026, 13:20, Reply)
it's not really about being radicalised, it's just you believe stupid shit, tony Obvious stupid shit.
I don't like dictatorships, so I guess that makes me left wing. the reason I don't like that them is they're unaccountable. It doesn't matter if they fuck up, lie, do awful shit. there's not a damn thing you can do about it, and if you pipe up you face consequences. I prefer democracies, and as a student of history I know how hard fought most of those gains were that a generation of fucking clueless incel dipsticks with chips on their shoulders are now pissing away
so masked government operatives killing people with impunity and without consequence, and an adminstration that's willing to tell bald faced lies to the public seems like a step in that direction, along with several others they've taken. I'm not particularly interested in the victims backstories, whether they morally deserved it or not or might have avoided death if they had parted their hair in a different way that morning. My concern is why are there are masked poorly trained armed government agents on the streets with such powers? Why aren't their proper investigations and consequence in what seems like an obvious abuses that resulted in the death of citizens. Why aren't there consequence when a government tells obvious lies they know are lies to the public?
These seem more pertinent than your opinion that him carrying a holstered weapon, in a nation with 100 million registered gun owners, somehow means he contributed to his own death. An opinion bouncing around fox news at the moment, quite funny given their rabid second amendment defence over the years, but shameless hypocrisy never bothered them before, and there's plenty that'll regurgitate their talking points, even here
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Thu 29 Jan 2026, 15:11,
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First smart thing anyone's said in this conversation
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Thu 29 Jan 2026, 18:00,
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what? I didn't win the internet?
Dammit
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Fri 30 Jan 2026, 2:30,
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I'm not reading all that.
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Fri 30 Jan 2026, 10:49,
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Odd, isn't it
that Tony says he is not right wing, yet parrots the exact line that Fox News are taking, calls people 'radical leftists' when they disagree with him, and always defends any actions by right wing governments...
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Fri 30 Jan 2026, 11:49,
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