Yes.
I am not disagreeing with you, but I do think that the assumption that Noah's Ark existed is not an unreasonable one.
If they truly believe they can find it then that is worth pursuing.
I do not believe that they can find it and think that they are daftys, but I have not seen their data.
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I am not disagreeing with you, but I do think that the assumption that Noah's Ark existed is not an unreasonable one.
If they truly believe they can find it then that is worth pursuing.
I do not believe that they can find it and think that they are daftys, but I have not seen their data.
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Id say that "true belief" shouldn't be the basis of any endeavour
people are capable of believing a lot of dangerous nonsense, and the stonger they believe, the less likely they are of taking notice of any evidence that might suggest the contrary. not the best proponents of the scientific method
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people are capable of believing a lot of dangerous nonsense, and the stonger they believe, the less likely they are of taking notice of any evidence that might suggest the contrary. not the best proponents of the scientific method
( , Thu 18 Sep 2008, 12:18, Share, Reply)
Hmm.
I think that you believe things that you think are true.
Because you and I see unquestioning religious fervour as daft, we think that this is not valid, but I imagine that to some it seems ridiculous that we believe what we read from Hawkins as much as we think that believing what is written by Luke is worthy of further study.
( , Thu 18 Sep 2008, 12:32, Share, Reply)
I think that you believe things that you think are true.
Because you and I see unquestioning religious fervour as daft, we think that this is not valid, but I imagine that to some it seems ridiculous that we believe what we read from Hawkins as much as we think that believing what is written by Luke is worthy of further study.
( , Thu 18 Sep 2008, 12:32, Share, Reply)
luke is a 2000 year old book written by some one we know nothing of other than his own accounts of himself
hawkins is a scentist, he supplies evidnece for what he beilves. sceicne is rigrous, claims made by people are challnged. exspremnets have to be reapeatble. relgious belif is completly impossible do disprove. some one simply states that somthing is true. if you ask why they just say that they have faith. which is essential saying well i beilve it. you can ever test wether what they are saying is true. you cant do that in science. you dont read in new secintist "hawkins belives that the unverse is like this becuase he thinks it would be nice". know scintfic theories are basesd on reasnable exspalntions with logical reasoning. relgion is based on 2000 year old unsported accounts. any senible historan would questions the truth of many accounts of ceasars account of counquering britain. they wouldnt accpt it as objective fact like christians do with luke. there is clear and obvious diffecne between making stuff up an creating reasnable exspalntion of events
( , Thu 18 Sep 2008, 13:10, Share, Reply)
hawkins is a scentist, he supplies evidnece for what he beilves. sceicne is rigrous, claims made by people are challnged. exspremnets have to be reapeatble. relgious belif is completly impossible do disprove. some one simply states that somthing is true. if you ask why they just say that they have faith. which is essential saying well i beilve it. you can ever test wether what they are saying is true. you cant do that in science. you dont read in new secintist "hawkins belives that the unverse is like this becuase he thinks it would be nice". know scintfic theories are basesd on reasnable exspalntions with logical reasoning. relgion is based on 2000 year old unsported accounts. any senible historan would questions the truth of many accounts of ceasars account of counquering britain. they wouldnt accpt it as objective fact like christians do with luke. there is clear and obvious diffecne between making stuff up an creating reasnable exspalntion of events
( , Thu 18 Sep 2008, 13:10, Share, Reply)
You forget the unarguable corroborative books also!
Matthew, Mark and John ;)
( , Thu 18 Sep 2008, 13:18, Share, Reply)
Matthew, Mark and John ;)
( , Thu 18 Sep 2008, 13:18, Share, Reply)
i don't believe anything
i carry around in my mind a set of hypothesis that seem to be the best current explanation for whatever phenomen that i witness or interests me.
belief and faith are just lazy buckets people piss their brains into
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i carry around in my mind a set of hypothesis that seem to be the best current explanation for whatever phenomen that i witness or interests me.
belief and faith are just lazy buckets people piss their brains into
( , Thu 18 Sep 2008, 13:42, Share, Reply)
So by your logic
someone needs to completely understand every scientific theory they believe in, otherwise they're just putting their 'faith' in people they consider smarter than themselves?
( , Thu 18 Sep 2008, 13:49, Share, Reply)
someone needs to completely understand every scientific theory they believe in, otherwise they're just putting their 'faith' in people they consider smarter than themselves?
( , Thu 18 Sep 2008, 13:49, Share, Reply)