Ummmm.... THANKS for getting rid of Saddam....Now if you would just kindly F**K OFF....
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U.S. Army "motivational" speech to Iraqi puppet cops. For some strange (semi-drunken) reason, the TRANSLATOR was the one who had my attention.
Possible GC & NSFW for swearing.
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 22:22, Reply)
Hats off to him
Iraq is fucked, and as the Police it's their job to help sort it out, but they'd rather keep to their own petty loyalties than be loyal to Iraq.
The sooner they do as he says the sooner he will get the fuck out of the country.
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 22:31, Reply)
The problem is that he's making some major assumptions about them without even knowing them.
This can only make things worse.
He's a fucking cunt.
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Zuowan, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 22:43,
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He knows they're not patrolling
he knows the officers aren't leading
and you can safely assume that someone's got multiple alliegances considering the number of attacks carried out with good intelligence and quite often in police uniform; and they're getting those from somewhere.
I'm pretty sure he knows what he's talking about; after all, sounds like he's had enough of it whatever it is.
As for him being a cunt; combat soldiers generally aren't the fluffiest chaps.
Also, considering the continually high number of attacks, bombings, crime, etc. we can also be pretty sure that whatever it was they were doing up until now wasn't working either. It may make it worse, but more of the same won't make things any better. You don't discipline soldiers with hugs and loves; I think they probably needed a dose of that. You can see how ashamed the officers look when he has a go at them, that stands for a lot.
(, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 22:45, Reply)
Yeah, someone may do, but he's just going to really piss off the rest of them.
It's just stupid. This is why armies are no good at governing.
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Zuowan, Wed 4 Mar 2009, 22:50,
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Armies do not Govern
Politician's do, occasionally a High ranking Officer may fill in for a politician whislt the area is unsafe for their fluffly little suit wearing bodies. But combat soldiers fight whom they are told to fight, politics does not come into it. I am slightly fed up of people whom appear to have never served in any of the armed forces making asumptions that we are there to fix everything with a magic wand. Bullets do not fix societies or peoples attitudes, Government can, complaining about armies is just plain old stupid. Complain about the governments instead, I don't come to your work and tell you how to do your bosses bosses bosses bosses job.
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Laird Dave Draws Now charges to take off his clothes., Wed 4 Mar 2009, 23:46,
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Sure, agreed with you there.
Unfortunately the Bush administration didn't understand (or at least took 5 years to understand) the difference between conquering Iraq and governing it - disbanding the police without anyone to take their place for example, that was a terrible decision.
The guy in the video is doing nothing but making the soldiers hate the US even more. The situation isn't his fault, he's just done what he was told to do, it isn't working, he's getting frustrated. But he's still not handling the situation at all well, and the people he's taking it out on are no more responsible for it than he is.
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Zuowan, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 0:15,
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Yes but
He's saying it based on known intelligence though. We had an interpreter killed over there after one of the IPS recognised him and grassed him in with the Jay'sh Al-mardi Militia.
As soon as he went home for his rest days, they came and killed him and his mother for working with the British.
Doesn't sound like professional police actions does it?
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Terry_Tibbs Coarse and violent nudity. Occasional language, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 11:13,
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I find conflicts deeply unpleasant
like the recent bombing of Israel by Hamas and the Israeli retaliation of Gaza; I hated the Iraqi war from the onset, despite the fact I wasn't convinced the chemical weapons Saddam obviously had and deployed on the Kurds and Iranians weren't quite a credible threat to Europe capitals (like why would he want to to take out his customers?), given his rocket and hence delivery technology would raise an eyebrow
but given the Muslim religious militia this army guy seems so angry about are utter cunts, I am unsurprised he appears frustrated with that lot in the video. The head of the one he refers to declared it was expectable to enslave any female soldiers at one point before he saw the light* Utter cunt; may bullets or riddle the bodies with people with the same attitude
That said, thanks Bush and Blair for this mess; the neo cons were apparently wrong; I suspected their ilk to be wankers when I saw them argue pointlessly with Paxman; we 'liberated' all the the religious nutters.
*American firepower
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Jahled Three shades of black, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 0:15,
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Lets not forget that the war in Iraq was/is an illegal war
Due to the 'Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties of 1969' no country within the UN could invade another country without the consent of other members within the UN.
A majority of the countries within the UN were 100% against any invasion, as there were no weapons of mass destruction found, and at the time, there were no terrorists/mercenaries, they only appeared after the occupancy of American/British armed forces.
For this foreign/american military individual to talk to these citizens of Iraq like a piece of sh1t, is inexcusable.
After what the west has done to them, it's Shocking!
He's a Cnut!
Full Stop.
*steps off soap box*
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Darklord, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 5:48,
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that bloke is spot on
much MUCH more should be shouted at those cowardly wankers
(, Thu 5 Mar 2009, 7:04, Reply)