Why desperation?
It's clever. Interaction is what's missing from mp3s. I'd never buy one because I like my music to be tactile. This is bringing some of that back.
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SugarSpunSister Yeah, whatever, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 12:31,
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A part of me misses physical objects
ask a lot of folks what they're listening to on their iPod or equivalent and they have to look to see what it's called and have NO idea what it would look like if they had to identify the album in a line up of CDs, I've got stuff on mine that if I put it on random I swear I've never heard it before in my life, but was probably just downloaded on a whim one evening as it was a one-click freebie, it's all become a bit ethereal and disposable hasn't it?
I miss cleverness in the physical object that I could explore, some folks like Pink Floyd and Radiohead and such used to do all sorts of clever tricks that made the music almost insignificant to the medium itself and the packaging surrounding it, and it gave the band a sort of folklore beyond their image onscreen or facts in mags etc and was just a teensy bit magical.
Bit of a dead art now really...
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..wil, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 12:42,
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Yep
My ultimates are Lemon Jelly. Everything they've ever released is BEAUTIFUL. Just such a joy to own.
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SugarSpunSister Yeah, whatever, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 12:44,
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I still have that live album Pulse by Pink Floyd someplace
have to wonder if I dug it out if it would still have one... ?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse_(Pink_Floyd_album)#LED_packaging
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..wil, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 12:56,
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All I can think of now is a sad glowing record in a dark corner of the loft
It;s made me quite heartbroken
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SugarSpunSister Yeah, whatever, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:01,
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Aw!
In a box in the celler as it happens, still pull 'em out now and then for a breath of fresh air! ;)
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..wil, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:39,
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^this^
I got my first mp3 album a couple of weeks back (it's not available as a physical album), and I was really dissapointed that there were sleeve notes.
Just the tracks and a JPG of the front cover.
It sounds daft, but I felt a bit cheated.
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Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:51,
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How is it tactile? It's still digital, albeit with a bit of interactivity.
But I know what you mean, if you really like something you want to own it in a 'special' way and you might want to have a physical product. I suppose this lets you put your 'stamp' on it.
That said the digital format for music is here to stay and will completely replace the CD if it hasn't already.
As well doing the same for books and games.
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 12:51,
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I sincerely hope you're wrong there
Nothing will ever replace the physical object in my eyes, especially not digital books. Books are ACE. This is also why vinyl still has such a dedicated fanbase
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SugarSpunSister Yeah, whatever, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 12:54,
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I love books too, but I'm afraid it's inevitable.
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 12:55,
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Nah
If that was the case there'd be no more collectors. And you'll NEVER stop collectors, especially not with this generation. Everyone between the ages of 15 and 40 grew up with collectables as toys. It's a concept that's deeply ingrained in them, and it'll never go. The only reason it's in a glut right now is because folks don't have as much disposable income. Sort the economy out and people will start buying things again.
/Did her dissertation on this
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SugarSpunSister Yeah, whatever, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 12:59,
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What I'm saying is, something like the Kindle and the sale of digital books will grow exponentially.
I'll be very surprised if fifty years from now books will be printed on paper and sold in a shop.
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:03,
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Digital media is far too unreliable IMO
It's unfeasible to think all reference books will be in digital form. What about academia? Libraries? Hard copies of company reports, data and other reference?
The digital age is great but it's just unfeasible for everything to go digital
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SugarSpunSister Yeah, whatever, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:07,
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Imagine if you could scan the pages of a book without opening it.
Technology will speed the process up, everything is going in the cloud, I feel it in my loins.
I'm not happy about it, as we've recently seen how bad data security is.
Well, there go.
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:16,
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Take your tinfoil hat off and see my logic
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SugarSpunSister Yeah, whatever, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:24,
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All books will go digital given enough time.
*chews tinfoil*
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:29,
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a book can always be read
nasa recently had to THROW away data because there where no system to read it...can you see the fallible-ness of the digital format now?
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Nasa now, I've mentioned data security up there^
You seem somewhat confused, I'm not saying that the digital format is perfect, I'm saying it's inevitable.
Shirley that's obvious?
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:37,
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Do we still writet with our hands
because we have had typewriters for a while.
do we still walk with our feet, because we have had mechanised transport for a while.
do we still print out documents rather than read them on perfectly good screens?
now tell me again how digital media will replace everything...
yes digital media will become more common... but humans are a funny bunch...just cos something makes a lot of sense on paper (sic/lol) doesn't mean EVERYONE will adopt it.
but for the masses...probably.
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You seem to have misread what I typed, I didn't mention vinyl or its availability.
All I am saying is that the digital format for music, books and games will outsell the physical versions given enough time and eventually replace them.
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(|D[ekionplexis B3ta.com: fictional child porn is OK, Tue 7 Jun 2011, 13:07,
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but there aren't any formats which have been totally replaced
people who like buying cd's like those who want to buy vinyl will still be able too, they will just have to go out their way a bit more...
the only real dead formats are rival formats, like betamax minidisc or laserdisc, formats which arrived at the same time as other formats...
i still believe that todays vinyl junkies, will be joined by tape junkies, and cd junkies, and eventually mp3 junkies....
i think we are probably arguing about a pedantic interpretation of a word...which is usually my form.
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