actually i didn't really answer your question did I
sorry- yes of course there is something wrong which has allowed this to happen, but it isn;t about cuts or police brutality or anything like that- it is a failure to bring children up properly, a collapse of authority.
their parents should have brought them up better
their parents should have kept them under control on the day
the police should have been far more aggressive and frightened them off the streets
the police should have broken the gangs that orchestrated the violence years ago
the authorities should have made sure these kids were forced to go to school, and teachers should be given far more support
it goes on and on doesn't it. there has been a collapse of authority and this is the result.
i have been reborn as a rabid authoritarian in the wake of the riots. i'm all for rubber bullets and water cannon now. motherfuckers try and break in to my house with my wife and kids in, i'm going to stab them to death with a bread knife.
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crab_bloke), Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:13,
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:) well said
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mr.dogshit The world's premier anthropomorphic canine faeces, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:18,
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Bring Back Flogging!
Well, a bit of an over-reaction but it is time that some of these "rights" were taken away from children. Canes should be brought back in in schools. Parents should have the right to physically discipline their children - within reason - without having the fucking Social Workers come charging in.
I'm still a left-winger. I'm still old-school labour at heart but, for fucks sake. This society is broken and it's because of too many "rights" for children who can't handle them.... Give them rights when they're old enough to also have responsibility....
cheers
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Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:22,
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the problem is that kids have "rights" that we dont.
if as an adult you act like a complete cunt, theres a good chance someone will punch you in the face.
stops a lot of people being cunts.
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yeah my liberal credentials
are burning in the bin right now. in fact the ridiculous amount of news this year has left me with a strange mixture of radical left and authoritarian opinions.
when the bankers are screwing us so we all hate the rich, and the underclass are smashing up my neighbourhood and threatening the safety of my family so i hate them too, and the politicians are on the make, and the police have been taking bribes from the media, who have themselves been acting like a bunch of total cunts, and the tax system benefits the greedy rich instead of people trying to make a living, and the benefits system works to the advantage of the lazy shits instead of the people in need, and there's not enough money for anything, and the troops are dying for a war no-one thinks can be won, and there's a vague threat of terrorism all the time, and there's a resurgence of racist bigotry, and the kids aren't being disciplined because teachers and the police are too worried about being punished to enforce their authority......
what the fuck is left?
i don;t know what i believe in any more to be honest. i don;t feel like any of the political parties really addresses my feelings of rage at just about everyone.
maybe i'll start a new political party with a massively slimmed down agenda:
bankers- fuck them. tax them to fuck, we don;t need them, the city's profitability is just a mirage. tax them till the financial markets fuck off to china
teachers- do what they want. no need to worry about being investigated for anything at all
riot police- rubber bullets and water cannon all round! public disorder will no longer be tolerated
politics- over. my authority will be absolute
press regulation - basically all press will be fed stories by my govt so no need to worry about that any more
tax- with the exception of bankers who will be taxed to extinction, everyone will pay 40% regardless. it's going to be much cheaper to run like that. no need for expensive civil servants.
benefits- if you're not generating tax revenues you belong to us. the unemployed will be working on civil construction projects in exchange for food rations, or sent to war.
and that's it! no need for any other policies, i'll decide everything else on the fly.
who's in?
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crab_bloke), Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:44,
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YEAH!
That's right!
Working, working, striving towards freedom,
Striving toward justice and a perfect land for all,
Fighting, fighting, whoever we are told to,
Fot the glory of our Leader in our thousands we shall fall
To die for our Leader is the greatest glory,
We shall fight our enemies wherever they may be,
Fighting without mercy to extend our country's borders,
We shall kill to enforce our Leader's authority
All who question the glory of our Leader,
Will be put to death with axes on prime time TV,
We all strive to be perfect like our Leader,
He is the most perfect man that a perfect man can be.
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crab_bloke), Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:04,
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Gets my vote.
Can you introduce a rule that no one is entitled to benefits until they've paid in 2 years NI contributions?
Also, I'd like you to do something about 'Cheddar' being made outside of the Cheddar gorge area. It should be a protecting name much the same as Champagne.
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:01,
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brill, i'll get you a membership card made up
don't worry about the benefits thing, that system won't be in operation, they'll be put to work or war if they're not contributing tax revenue.
cheddar- YES- ABSOLUTELY.
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crab_bloke), Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:05,
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can i form the militarised wing of your party
it will be painful cruel and unusual.
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yeah for sure!
we're going to need snazzy uniforms! Hugo Boss did the SS uniforms didn't he. Let's see if we can get... umm..... paul smith? ted baker?
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crab_bloke), Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:40,
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this is shoreditch...
we'll be prepared for clashes of all natures.
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Little there I could disagree with
I remember being told I'd move to the right as I got older and until recently never thought it'd happen. It sure has now
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TownsendsPublisher is all gravy baby, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:12,
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Well said - and thanks for the response..
I've been really surprised by the reaction of a number of people I know over the past few days..
Normal, level headed liberal types calling for military on the streets, using real bullets etc - frankly rather frightening.
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the greatest threat to liberalism is reality.
I grew up not having a great relationship with the police...
now im the most pro-authoritarian person in the office... rubber bullets?
Livefire and a curfew till this is sorted out please.
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