as I said below
Just because someone is a massive shit, doesn't mean you should be a tiny bit of a shit too.
Lead by example and send them to the tower
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HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 11:38,
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But the guy in front was doing 105 as well officer...
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 11:40,
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the guy in front is a serial killing paedophile...
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HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 11:43,
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Ah apols I hadn't seen that.
I've no problem with the legalities of it - I think everyone knows if they get busted doing a foreigner then they're in trouble. It's when some kind of moral judgment comes into the equation that my hackles rise.
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barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 11:44,
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Well, I agree with your first statement, but
The problem with "leading by example" is that 1/ no one cares about the little people to follow & 2/ big business doesn't care about personal morality.
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Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 11:56,
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which is why you prosecute the fuck out of them
safe in the knowledge that you're not some kind of terrible hypocrite
(which is where all these mps are going wrong)
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HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 11:58,
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....the problem is that a lot of controversies recently have been "morally wrong" but not actually breaking any laws.
So you can't.
...and also, big business/MPs et al know that the hoi polloi have extremely short term memories.... I've not bought a Sunday Times since the phone hacking scandal kicked off, but their sales recovered nicely.
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Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 12:02,
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Assuming the figures can be trusted.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_the_United_Kingdom_by_circulation#Circulation_since_2000_2
The sunday times is heading south.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 12:09,
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I think the overarching trend there (my balding, ginger, alexic nemesis) is that all printed media is on the way out.
I can't find it (obv) but there was a short-term survey taken that showed the boycott of the Murdoch papers lasted as long as the general public's indignation/about a month.
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Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 12:13,
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Your word of the day calender has "alexia" on it AICMFP
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 12:34,
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Judging me by your snakebelly standards, eh?
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Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 13:04,
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I least I have standards you deviant.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 13:52,
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You're an ugly, balding, bearded, ginger cornishman.
"All signs point to 'No'".
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Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 15:16,
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or be the good little boy
and do what the man is telling you...even though he's not doing the same?
how does following hypocritical advice benefit us?
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how does everyone being shit to each other benefit the human race
I appreciate I'm being foolishly optimistic, but I'd feel like a twat getting angry at companies fiddling their books if I was fiddling mine.
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HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 12:10,
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my arguement, is that untill as a society
we say "everyone pays tax" thats when its a moral issue... right now its a class issue... if your rich enough or powerful you dont have to pay tax... therefore its a punishment for not being ambitious/cuntish enough...
so only the stupid and weak pay their fair amount of tax...
so when ikea is registered as a charity and the politicians tell you that your handyman neighbour is "morally wrong"
thats when its being a good little boy....
when the rich and powerful AREN'T doing it, yet saying everyone who isn't is morally wrong.
fuck that.
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Paying taxes is how you contribute to the community.
It's not being a "good little boy"
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 12:12,
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how much is on a sliding scale of how much power and influence you have...
so i' argue that while the deficit could be filled by the corporate big boys paying their share...instead we are being asked to "shop our neighbour"
thats exactly being a good little boy.
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Ok so the big corps are being naughty so the rest of us shouldn't bother?
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Tue 24 Jul 2012, 13:55,
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no im saying that
you dont make the corporations play ball by forcing the average man...
you go the other way round....
you make sure the big boys are paying up and THEN you go for the little guy...
if a boat had 4 holes one hole with a surface area twice the size of the other 4 holes... you wouldn't say the best solution would be to plug the smallest hole would you?
(fluid dynamics will tear this metaphor apart... but you get it)
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