yeah I know
I thought he was some kind of hero but apparently the mob is a bit fickle.
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Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 16 Aug 2012, 14:26,
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"the mob". pfffft.
How fortunate we are to be in the presence of your informed and superior intellect.
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JamTallons, Thu 16 Aug 2012, 14:32,
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intellect is no guarantor against mobs, unfortunately.
I don't know what else you call it when one moment someone's a hero, and then somebody cries "rape" and suddenly he's a villain.
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Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 16 Aug 2012, 14:36,
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he's evading the judicial process.
Which to most people is suggestive of some degree of guilt
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he is,
the problem is when the judicial process is the puppet of the CIA.
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Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 16 Aug 2012, 14:46,
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they're all in NATO so yes, they are
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Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 16 Aug 2012, 15:19,
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actually Sweden isnt but never let the facts get in the way of your preconceptions
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well they still are, anyway.
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Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 16 Aug 2012, 15:26,
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Sweden also has a long history of participating in international military operations, including most recently, Afghanistan, where Swedish troops are under NATO command
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Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 16 Aug 2012, 15:28,
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His claimed reasons for doing so make it far more suggestive of paranoid delusions
(IMO)
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Okay, let's comprimise... can we agree on "paranoia"?
I haven't seen any convincing evidence that he'd actually get shipped off to the US by Sweden.
But then, there's a conspicuous lack of assurances that he wouldn't be.
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the whole extradition arrangement is extremely asymetric,
when the US want somebody, they get them.
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Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 16 Aug 2012, 15:08,
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I reckon it's more the case that the UK won't do it so soon after McKinnon
So Sweden stepped up, I seem to remember (hazily) a 15 year old Swedish kid being arrested by the FBI a while back. They raided his house, in Sweden. They have form.
EDIT: Shit, can't find any trace of the story... it had something to do with DVD copy protection or something, and the code ended up on T-Shirts... did I dream all that?
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I think I remember it actually
now you mention it
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Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 16 Aug 2012, 18:01,
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I think you mean this chap:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Lech_Johansen. He was Norwegian. Wasn't the FBI breaking down his door either I'm afraid, but I guess you could say the Americans "started it" if you wanted to.
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JamTallons, Thu 16 Aug 2012, 18:47,
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yeah maybe
it reminds me a little of the concept of electric fences mentioned in the book Flat Earth News.
An example give is that it's difficult to criticise Israel without people shouting that it's anti-semitic. Hence lots of quite reasonable people just pull faces and choose to talk about something else rather than getting shouted at.
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rob, Thu 16 Aug 2012, 15:44,
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