
You can't 'take' guns.
How did banning automatic weapons and hand guns work out in the UK?
Oh yeah....really fucking well.
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 17:32, Reply)

i remember well when the UK decided to ban outright handguns post Dunblane, even though their ownership was already extremely strictly regulated. i felt then, as i do now, that a total blanket ban was a knee-jerk over-reaction made by fools who believe that they can legislate against the dark side of human nature. it didn't work out particularly well as guess what, some people don't give a shit if is a handgun is illegal or not, and many handguns continue to be used to wound and kill, so it didn't solve the problem.
as for the banning of automatic weapons, i don't remember that, because it never fucking happened, because they were never legal in the first place.
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 17:43, Reply)

it was in 1937.
Semi-automatics went after Hungerford.
Handguns after Dunblane. As you say 'strictly regulated' but not so strictly that Thomas Hamilton couldn't own several...
How many people were shot and killed by handguns in 2011 in the UK?
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:01, Reply)

what, am i your google bitch now? don't know, don't care, going to the pub, yes banning all guns will solve everthing in a very short period of time, it is also a realistic and achievable political aim that will easily be legislated for. oh and aren't americans cunts? happy now?
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:09, Reply)

down from its peak (since 1969) of 5,874 in 2002, yet still not below the pre 1996 average. the number of offences committed with shotguns, which happen to be legal btw, was 608.
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:15, Reply)

If the statistics include the new offence of "posession", then of course they'll go up.
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:17, Reply)

( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:34, Reply)

hence, easier to conceal, ship, sell illegally etc etc
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:38, Reply)

If you want to keep / sell an illegal item, you'll want to keep it hidden. Small things hide easy. It's in their nature.
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:49, Reply)

( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:51, Reply)

I don't have any stats, but they more than likely did, and were replaced by easier to conceal handguns. There are prob a lot of other factors at play here, if the fact that what you state is even true at all.
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:54, Reply)

there a lot of factors at play, which is why effective policing and education work a lot better than blanket bans.
www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/sn01940.pdf
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 19:05, Reply)

If guns are made illegal, ie hard to get hold of them, you will reduce these problems. Gun crime will still happen, it's inevitable, but making them less available helps to control them against pointless misuses (a 6 year old child finding his parents guns and shooting his brother dead for example)
( , Sun 16 Dec 2012, 11:12, Reply)