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This is a link post Gays, Muslims, refugees, Brexit and Owen Jones
All discussed on the new Milo podcast with Douglas Murray.

Milo does the sensible thing and just prods Murray to get him started on various issues, lets him have his head.

Might not be for everybody.
 (I helped save b3ta! Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 17:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post Not for everyone?
This will go down like a cup of cold sick with pretty much everyone on here.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 18:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post If you only read stuff you agree with
then I'd suggest you don't have much interest in the world. I read all the gender-fluid, pro-immigrant, left-wing, Islamo-apologist nonsense that you see shared around. Sometimes I change my mind about things, but seeing as that's the position I came from, it usually reinforces my hateful views.
 (I helped save b3ta! Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 18:15, , Reply)
This is a normal post You're preaching to the choir mate.

(I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 18:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post Not "you" you
But "one" you.
 (I helped save b3ta! Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 18:42, , Reply)
This is a normal post But why challenge one's beliefs by listening to that guy?
Milo Yiannopoulos is a complete charlatan. He's a media whore who has tweeted and blogged himself into existence. He has no qualifications and little to no experience as a journalist. His driving force has been his desire for media attention. Throughout his short career his values change depending on whatever will gain him the most media attention. He hit it big with gamergate. Despite not playing games himself and having previously called gamers sad and pathetic basement dwellers, it was the perfect venue for his self promotion. It was contrarian, shallow, vicious and had easy targets. Then predictably onto Breitbart 'news' then this alt-right cesspool. He's an egotistical media personality who believes in nothing but himself.
 (felixcoen, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 18:50, , Reply)
This is a normal post I have very little interest in him
but he doesn't take centre stage on this podcast. In fact, Milo doesn't come across that well when he opens his mouth.

A better one, I suppose, would be Doug's chats with Sam Harris, who is thoughtful and interesting: https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/on-the-maintenance-of-civilization
 (I helped save b3ta! Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 18:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post I do respect Douglas Murray quite a lot, he is certainly very challenging
But he demeans himself when he pals up with people like that. I understand that people often need to take whatever platform is available for them to air their views sometimes. Plenty of people, of whatever political stripe, dislike the BBC but will go on it nevertheless. But I cannot believe that a man of Murray's intelligence and media experience doesn't know what Yiannopoulos is all about. He's enabling him and promoting a fraud. He seems comfortable with that.
 (felixcoen, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 19:29, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yes, actually
You're right. He argues against useless tossers far too much. He's on that Nicky Campbell show and debating Yasmin Alibhia-Brown every other day.
 (I helped save b3ta! Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Sat 18 Jun 2016, 3:03, , Reply)
This is a normal post Well I finally got around to listening to it.
Yiannopoulos is insufferable. Murray was good as usual.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 18 Jun 2016, 11:43, , Reply)
This is a normal post I think I agree with all of that.
I find breitbart a bit too much at times myself. However it's interesting you describe him as a contrarian. Again, I don't necessarily disagree, but it does imply that those who don't subscribe to an orthodox consensus should be silenced, which I disagree with.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 19:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'm not advocating silencing anyone
My point is he's a contrarian for reasons of self promotion. He's views do not just happen to be contrarian, he has chosen to be contrarian because it promotes him as a media and cultural personality. I've no doubt that were he to have been born into a different generation, he would have been a beatnik, a merry prankster, a punk or even a PC warrior of the 90's. All out of expediency.
 (felixcoen, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 19:39, , Reply)
This is a normal post fair enough.
But I do like seeing smug, arrogant and complacent twats having their Weltanschauung challenged. It's just a shame he does it in such a highly provocative and obnoxious way.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 19:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post Don't get me wrong, I love a bit of that too, I wish it was coming from someone better too.
I'm so glad I graduated before all of this nonsense on campuses. At the last open debate I attended at a uni was about Syria, the first question from the audience was from an 18 year old girl (ostensibly cis gender female) who complained about the slight gender imbalance in the panel. I almost cracked a tooth from grinding. It was a fucking embarrassment.
 (felixcoen, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 20:31, , Reply)
This is a normal post I hear you brother.
Campuses have gone mental.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 20:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yiannopolous is a fairly repulsive piece of work.
Murray is everything he's not: urbane, cultured, unflappable. God, I've got a terrible crush on him.
 (I helped save b3ta! After you my dear Alfonse No. After you., Fri 17 Jun 2016, 18:38, , Reply)
This is a normal post And he has a Greek surname.
They invented gayness.
 (I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 18:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post The man's got a set of clockweights though
Because if political assassinations are happening in rural Yorkshire, his life expectancy in the US must be pretty short.
 (I helped save b3ta! After you my dear Alfonse No. After you., Fri 17 Jun 2016, 18:55, , Reply)
This is a normal post I like turtles.

(I helped save b3ta! Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Fri 17 Jun 2016, 21:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post Let's be honest, no-one listened to that, did they?
I will post kittens and / or the International Space Station next time.
 (I helped save b3ta! Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Sat 18 Jun 2016, 0:13, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yes please.

(I helped save b3ta! Pig Bodine., Sat 18 Jun 2016, 9:16, , Reply)