Sanders being quite prescient a couple of weeks ago
Sanders was the only one in the field I liked. One rare bit of agreement Prufrock and I share is that Biden was an uninspiring candidate well past his prime. Would Sanders have done better, who the fuck knows, though he was the only other who performed decently against trump in head to head hypothetical polling. Trump is gifted in exploiting any weakness and is the incumbent. If Trump was able to win florida by painting Biden as a communist to the latinos, christ know what they would have made of Sanders. But he may have done better than Biden in the rust belt states where Biden will do well scrape over the line. The bookies now have Biden at 66% of winning after looking at the late absentees, better than late the previous night, though not something to stick your house on
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Sanders was the only one in the field I liked. One rare bit of agreement Prufrock and I share is that Biden was an uninspiring candidate well past his prime. Would Sanders have done better, who the fuck knows, though he was the only other who performed decently against trump in head to head hypothetical polling. Trump is gifted in exploiting any weakness and is the incumbent. If Trump was able to win florida by painting Biden as a communist to the latinos, christ know what they would have made of Sanders. But he may have done better than Biden in the rust belt states where Biden will do well scrape over the line. The bookies now have Biden at 66% of winning after looking at the late absentees, better than late the previous night, though not something to stick your house on
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Dunno about prescient,
I've seen this scenario agonised over in countless opinion pieces for months. To the point where it started to feel inevitable.
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I've seen this scenario agonised over in countless opinion pieces for months. To the point where it started to feel inevitable.
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doesn't stop him from being spot on.
And I didn't see many predict it would go down to the arse-clenching wire, though I'm sure plenty will now claim they did, and I read a lot of US press as working from home affords me ample time to dick around, and not just the left wing press either. Most were around a theme of "we're confident biden will win, we should be cautious because of 2016 caveat caveat, but we think he'll win anyway because he's shitting the polls in". There was only a handful of blokes like michael moore saying "don't believe the polls, Biden's in a lot of trouble". whoever wins, with the dems controlling the house and the reps the senate it's probably going to be four more years of constipated shitfuckery in the US once again, trump or no.
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And I didn't see many predict it would go down to the arse-clenching wire, though I'm sure plenty will now claim they did, and I read a lot of US press as working from home affords me ample time to dick around, and not just the left wing press either. Most were around a theme of "we're confident biden will win, we should be cautious because of 2016 caveat caveat, but we think he'll win anyway because he's shitting the polls in". There was only a handful of blokes like michael moore saying "don't believe the polls, Biden's in a lot of trouble". whoever wins, with the dems controlling the house and the reps the senate it's probably going to be four more years of constipated shitfuckery in the US once again, trump or no.
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Indeed it doesn't.
Like I say, I did see quite a few think-pieces speculating that this exact scenario could come about. Sure, they were outnumbered by the "Biden's got a 90% chance of winning" brigade, but even they usually remembered to point out that 90% ≠ 100%. Perhaps this scenario stuck in my head because it gave me the most fear.
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Like I say, I did see quite a few think-pieces speculating that this exact scenario could come about. Sure, they were outnumbered by the "Biden's got a 90% chance of winning" brigade, but even they usually remembered to point out that 90% ≠ 100%. Perhaps this scenario stuck in my head because it gave me the most fear.
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Anyway,
Biden has now crept slightly ahead in the counts in Michigan and Wisconsin, as well as Nevada. *If* he holds on to his leads in those three states, they would take him to the magic 270, *if* the states that AP has already called turn out to be correct.
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Biden has now crept slightly ahead in the counts in Michigan and Wisconsin, as well as Nevada. *If* he holds on to his leads in those three states, they would take him to the magic 270, *if* the states that AP has already called turn out to be correct.
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the rustbelt wouldnt vote for bernie for the same reason the North wouldnt vote for Corbs
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Though they both are further to the left of their parties, Corbyn and sanders are quite different men.
I didn't think much of corbyn to begin with, but sitting on the fence during the biggest issue to face the UK in a generation in Brexit was just unforgivable, especially given his own party was staunchly pro-remain. He was weak in many of the ways Sanders is strong, less articulate, less likable, less consistent and by the time Corbyn limped to the election, less compromised. I think Sanders may have taken some of that "maverick rather than establishment" appeal away from Trump. Still, we'll never know how he would have performed in the heat of battle against trump, but I was optimistic
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I didn't think much of corbyn to begin with, but sitting on the fence during the biggest issue to face the UK in a generation in Brexit was just unforgivable, especially given his own party was staunchly pro-remain. He was weak in many of the ways Sanders is strong, less articulate, less likable, less consistent and by the time Corbyn limped to the election, less compromised. I think Sanders may have taken some of that "maverick rather than establishment" appeal away from Trump. Still, we'll never know how he would have performed in the heat of battle against trump, but I was optimistic
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