Ahhh
My hatred for macs is more so I can spar with the die hard Apple fanboys who worship Jobs et al. It's a decent enough set of hardware and sortware, even though it fustrates the hell out of me.
(Potty Jag har smör i min rumpspringa, Thu 14 May 2009, 22:07, 1 reply)

im a designer
to be honest its the industry tool for us industry tools

see what i did there

(they are purdy thought aint they)
( spimf ™ is whoever you want him to be, Thu 14 May 2009, 22:10, closed)

They do look nice
Although my very heavily customised desktop looks nicer, just because I made it.

I will disagree with you about it being an industry tool - I work in a printer/designers and we only have one mac. Mostly PC's here - all the software works on both types of machine, so we find it easier to just support the PC's.
(Potty Jag har smör i min rumpspringa, Thu 14 May 2009, 22:19, closed)

if you work in print where stuff is actually ripped - yeah
but you will appreciate all the files sent for print are on CS4 from macs

i have worked on PC's - i will concede photoshop is fairly familiar but beyond that... nah i'm sorry i need a mac
( spimf ™ is whoever you want him to be, Thu 14 May 2009, 22:26, closed)

We do indeed get a few files made in CS4 from macs
I can tell every single time - they never have a file extension on them. My £5 idiot tax for not putting it on didn't go down well. Without the extension I couldn't tell what it was made in.

But we also design from scratch in house for people, and exclusivly use PC's. While they rip it as part of the process, they still need to go through all the design work. With the speed of current technology, I don't really think there is any difference between the OS's any more except for the difference in interface. I know I'm greatly simplifying it, but I honestly can't see that much of a difference when it comes to it any more.
(Potty Jag har smör i min rumpspringa, Thu 14 May 2009, 22:43, closed)

macs dont need file extensions to work out what they are looking at
they're CLEVER

so do you have the full CS4 suite for the plastic crap boxes. i cant see why a code jockey would need indesign or illustrator

surely photoshop is the tool to comp natalie portman into a hardcore setting
( spimf ™ is whoever you want him to be, Thu 14 May 2009, 22:49, closed)

File extensions rock
They just make my life easier for getting different programs to open the same document and for finding specific things via filtering.

I'm not 100% sure what the machines have on them. I'm pretty sure it's full CS4. I'm more involved in the admin and making bits of paper come out of the printers side. Designer give me file, I make book!
(Potty Jag har smör i min rumpspringa, Thu 14 May 2009, 22:58, closed)

to be fair most macs default to applying a file extension
we all (designers) even know what most of them pertain to, in fact you have to delete the file extension while saving if you want to not have one - which is an option but the mac will still know what it is.

pc's make you work too hard - who gives a fuck about root files

sorry i hate the fuckers, they cost half as much but do everything half as good - at least in my line of work anyway.

but i still love you
( spimf ™ is whoever you want him to be, Thu 14 May 2009, 23:14, closed)