Bullshit and BullshittersWe've had questions about lies and liars in the past, but this time we're asking about the sort of fantasist who constantly claims they've got a helicopter in the garden or was "second onto the balcony at the Iranian Embassy siege". Tell us about the cobblers you've been told, or the complete lies you've come out with.
Thanks to dozer for the suggestion
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Scaryduck LIKES EGG, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:55)
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I heard a theoryWell, if we ever do invent AI, I think Asimov was pretty much spot on with his laws for it. It's reasonable to assume that the robots, or at least their progenitors, in the world of the matrix were programmed to above all cause no harm to human beings, and, where possible, to prevent harm coming to us.
Well, look at us. If you were a robot and you saw what was going on in North Korea or any of the other hundreds of shit places in the world, would you trust us not to blow ourselves into next week? Especially when we, the humans, rejected peace with the robots, the theory states that they just locked us up in huge towers of goo for our own goddamn safety, fulfilling one of the central tenets of their programming. They even tried to give us a fictional paradise to live in first, remember? That doesn't sound like something an enemy would do - they had our best interests at heart.
So, how come they keep on attacking Zion, eh? Well, once you get past the agonizing moral quandrary, you would have to take the view of a certain Mr spock - to a computer, certainly, the needs of the many outway the needs of the few. So, if you had a few thousand hooligans endangering the lives of billions of people you were trying to protect (and if the original assumption holds, that is what the people of Zion were trying to do), well, I reckon I'd probably use any means necessary to stop them.
There's more of course, especially the choosing of the seven men and sixteen women to repopulate Zion after it's destruction, but, it does all work quite nicely if you take this theory to be true. No idea if it's what the Wachowski brothers intended, but I like it.
(, Wed 19 Jan 2011, 18:44, 1 reply)
There's some plausability in what you said.But The Matrix never bothered to explore the ideas because the writers hadn't a fucking clue what they were writing and just dissapeared up their own arses because they are, essentially, dull morons who think like stoned students at 4AM.
As for the argument against us being in a simulation -- it matters little really and things like religion are still atavistic, dangerous, hateful, inneficient and deluded bollocks.
(, Wed 19 Jan 2011, 19:00, closed)
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