Yes, this is exactly the type of thing I mean.
People who say things like that should shut the fuck up. Thank you for the example.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Mon 5 Mar 2012, 10:54, 1 reply)

Umm...
So what are you saying?

There are two types of people:

A) People who drive blindly at the speed limit, just because it's legal, and have no other regard for actual road safety?

B) People who use their brains to judge what is a safe driving speed, taking into account the amount of other traffic on the road, how wide the road is, how straight the road is, how many parked cars there are, whether it's raining or snowing, whether it's night or day, how good their car's brakes are, and how much experience they've had with that particular car's handling.

I am a person B. What are you saying - that you're a person A, who drives at 29mph on a snowy foggy night round a bend with parked cars - and who's okay with it just because it's legal?

Just because some local councillor has decided what speed limit there should be on a road, that does not bear any relation to what the ACTUAL safe speed is to drive on that stretch of road at any one time - when you consider all the factors listed above.
(EuroSong I love horse meat: best of all the animals, Mon 5 Mar 2012, 12:24, closed)

This is excellent material

( Michael Ellis contributes nothing, Mon 5 Mar 2012, 12:28, closed)

Two types of people?
There are thousands, you racist.
( number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Mon 5 Mar 2012, 12:40, closed)

LOL

(EuroSong I love horse meat: best of all the animals, Mon 5 Mar 2012, 17:26, closed)

You're an idiot aren't you?
Where do I say that I drive AT the speed limit regardless of the situation?

Can you point it out to me, because I can't find it?
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Mon 5 Mar 2012, 13:18, closed)

I suggest you read my post
I said "What are you saying - that you're a person A, who drives at 29mph on a snowy foggy night round a bend with parked cars - and who's okay with it just because it's legal?"

You will notice that that sentence is a question, where I asked you if you were saying you're person A. It was rhetorical. I never stated myself that you were. Therefore when you replied to me "Where do I say that I drive AT the speed limit regardless of the situation?", you implication that I had stated that you were person A is erroneous.

Anyway - you call me an idiot? On what grounds? I smell an ad hominem argument from you here.

Back to the point. Speed limits are nice round numbers set by local councils, and they have no direct physical relation to the speed it might be safe to drive at, given a particular set of variables. If you disagree with this statement then please provide either evidence, or a coherent argument to support your position. Otherwise, calling me an "idiot" does not foster respect.
(EuroSong I love horse meat: best of all the animals, Mon 5 Mar 2012, 17:25, closed)

Luckily I wasn't trying to foster your respect.
But you ask on what grounds I call you an idiot? I have a pretty foolproof method for working it out as it happens. I let someone talk. Then I decide if they are an idiot.

I don't have a position on your statement, it's your statement, I didn't raise the question. I said that if you get punished for breaking the speed limit, shut the fuck up and don't bitch about it. I made no comment on whether the speed limit was correct in the first place, because it's utterly irrelevent to my point which, to bring us back to where I started, is that I wish people like you would shut the fuck up.

I'd be politer about it, but given that that was my point before you waded in, there seems litlle point in backtracking now.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Mon 5 Mar 2012, 17:28, closed)

Yet again
"If you disagree with this statement then please provide either evidence, or a coherent argument to support your position."

You have failed to do this. I will therefore not bother replying further, unless you can come up with some actual argument which makes sense.

(Aha - just saw your edit)

OK - regarding your post here, I think this spat is largely the result of a misunderstanding (correct me if I'm wrong). You are quite correct, you made no comment on whether you believed that the speed limit was right in the first place - therefore if you believed that I believed you did, then it's evident that you took my original reply to your post as a disagreement. In fact, my original reply was not disagreement pre se with your OP - it was just a continuation of the discussion in a wider context.

Anyway - regarding "bitching about speeding tickets", it may surprise you to learn that I largely agree: if you got a speeding ticket, then whatever you believe about the merits or not of that particular limit, the fact remains that you were exceeding the limit and you were not careful in that you got caught by a camera or a police speed trap. The police are merely doing their job after all. Moaning about it won't change it.
(EuroSong I love horse meat: best of all the animals, Mon 5 Mar 2012, 17:31, closed)

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( P-MONKE We're all fucked, Mon 5 Mar 2012, 13:45, closed)