You mean apart from Richard Dawkins saying it was probably the largest cause of misery in the world?
Or the almost ubiquitous criticism of it in the tabloids and tabliodesque tv channels on both sides of the atlantic?
Or the less rabid but equally regular discussion of the deep conservatism of traditional islam in the mature and/or leftie librul press?
Or the Catholic church and new evangelicals both portraying it as the primary enemy of Christianity?
Or the resurgence of far-right parties who've given their traditional general fascism a veneer of anti-Islam?
Or the introduction of laws in European countries specifically against Islamic cultural dress and food laws?

You mean apart from all that?

Yeah. You're right.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Wed 4 Jan 2012, 14:06, 4 replies)

^

( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Wed 4 Jan 2012, 14:12, closed)

Are you winking at me?
Hubba hubba.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Wed 4 Jan 2012, 14:12, closed)

I used the word "populist".

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 4 Jan 2012, 14:31, closed)

And ... ?

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Wed 4 Jan 2012, 17:41, closed)

None of what you've listed is populist criticism of Islam
It's all directed at "fundamentalists" and "terrorists".

No one has the balls to outright criticise Islam or Muslims, because they're too afraid to.

Christianity, however - well - that's an easy target because they don't tend to fight back.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Thu 5 Jan 2012, 9:07, closed)

Don't feel obliged to admit you were talking bollocks.
Apparently procrastination and waffle is a far more dignified response than humility.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Thu 5 Jan 2012, 11:01, closed)

I'm not.
Everyone cracks into Christianity, and all the teenagers lap it up with a "Yeah! Yeah!", but there's yet to be anyone seriously criticise Islam, because - rather embarassingly - they tend to get called "racist" for doing so. Despite the fact it's a religion, not a race.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Thu 5 Jan 2012, 11:15, closed)

Like I said ... don't feel obliged to apologise for talking shite.
Just keep bollocking on. You won't look foolish.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Thu 5 Jan 2012, 11:46, closed)

OK
Or the almost ubiquitous criticism of it in the tabloids and tabliodesque tv channels on both sides of the atlantic?

No - the Express, Star, maybe the Sun. Three shitty papers that everyone knows are shit. Wow.

Or the less rabid but equally regular discussion of the deep conservatism of traditional islam in the mature and/or leftie librul press?

Discussion. Not criticism.

Or the Catholic church and new evangelicals both portraying it as the primary enemy of Christianity?

Lynx or it didn't happen.

Or the resurgence of far-right parties who've given their traditional general fascism a veneer of anti-Islam?

I'd hardly say that there's a resurgence. There will always be far-right parties talking shit.

Or the introduction of laws in European countries specifically against Islamic cultural dress and food laws?

You mean France banning the veil? Wow.

Like I say - no populist criticism. People are too frightened.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Thu 5 Jan 2012, 12:21, closed)

I think there's a difference between "people criticising something" and "criticism of something".
Most people who lay into Islam don't seem to have much of a clue what they're complaining about. If you look at its basic tenets it's a monotheistic, philanthropic, gynephobic code of behaviour - exactly like Christianity. The distinguishing factor is that Christians seem to have moved with the times: the Bible has just as many incitements to go forth and crusade as the Quran, but no-one takes them seriously any more. Similarly, the Bible waffles on about "Wives, be subject to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord", but that (thankfully) is no longer the preponderant dynamic in Christian relationships. There is still a strong vein of modern Muslim thought that it is incumbent on the woman to veil her face so as not to tempt the man, i.e. if he fancies you it's clearly your fault and you can't expect him to show any decency in his behaviour, because come on: he's the man. Thus the Australian imam who said that if unveiled women got raped it was their own fault, because they were like unto a plate of "uncovered meat" in the sight of hungry dogs, etc. etc. This sort of thought process should have died out two millennia ago but it's still being peddled by the idiocrats.

Disclaimer: not Christian, not Muslim, not anything.
( .Yeti. El amor en los tiempos del cólera, Thu 5 Jan 2012, 12:54, closed)

...and the aqueduct, don't forget the aqueduct.

( number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Wed 4 Jan 2012, 17:38, closed)

snirk

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Wed 4 Jan 2012, 17:41, closed)

Let's not forget the 10+ year holy war "against terror" either.

( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Wed 4 Jan 2012, 20:39, closed)