Hypocrisy
Overheard the other day: "I've told you before - stop swearing in front of the kids, for fuck's sake." Your tales of double standards please.
( , Thu 19 Feb 2009, 12:21)
Overheard the other day: "I've told you before - stop swearing in front of the kids, for fuck's sake." Your tales of double standards please.
( , Thu 19 Feb 2009, 12:21)
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*Furious clickage*
I'm in favour of more nuclear power. Just a thought though- won't we run out of uranium just like we're supposedly running out of oil?
( , Thu 19 Feb 2009, 17:16, 2 replies)
I'm in favour of more nuclear power. Just a thought though- won't we run out of uranium just like we're supposedly running out of oil?
( , Thu 19 Feb 2009, 17:16, 2 replies)
Depends on the tech used.
Fast breeders fell out of favour in the 1950s, as they could be used to weaponise fissionable materials. However they are *much* more effective at burning fissiles than regular reactors - in conjunction with reprocessing, it's possible to break down a good 70% of fissiles rather than the 10% or so conventional reactors manage.
This also results in the waste coming out the other end being a whole lot less reactive than spent fuel from a traditional reactor.
Also, they can burn Thorium - which is a lot more abundant than uranium.
(I grew up with the spectres of three mile island and chernobyl, but currently believe nuclear fission is the best current stop-gap we have).
YS
( , Thu 19 Feb 2009, 17:33, closed)
Fast breeders fell out of favour in the 1950s, as they could be used to weaponise fissionable materials. However they are *much* more effective at burning fissiles than regular reactors - in conjunction with reprocessing, it's possible to break down a good 70% of fissiles rather than the 10% or so conventional reactors manage.
This also results in the waste coming out the other end being a whole lot less reactive than spent fuel from a traditional reactor.
Also, they can burn Thorium - which is a lot more abundant than uranium.
(I grew up with the spectres of three mile island and chernobyl, but currently believe nuclear fission is the best current stop-gap we have).
YS
( , Thu 19 Feb 2009, 17:33, closed)
I don't know about you, but I feel a little uneasy hearing "nuclear" and "stop-gap" in the same sentence. Makes me imagine reactors held together with duct tape.
( , Thu 19 Feb 2009, 18:38, closed)
there's a longer supply of fissiles than of fossils
and crucially, we're fairly well aware of the finite availability; at the *beginning* of the useage curve. If the public knew how scarce oil really was back when oil first kicked off; would it have been so misused? (Oil- and gas- fired power stations FFS!*) We have now a fairly good idea how much accessible nuclear fuel** there is; which is the cornerstone of budgeting it's use.
* I know, useful for short lead-time temporary capacity; but it shouldn't be used for regular generation just because gas is cheap at that moment.
** According to wikipedia, A 1,000 MW coal-burning power plant could release as much as 5.2 tons/year of uranium (containing 74 pounds (34 kg) of uranium-235) and 12.8 tons/year of thorium. So could we run nuclear-stations off coal-station waste?
( , Fri 20 Feb 2009, 5:49, closed)
and crucially, we're fairly well aware of the finite availability; at the *beginning* of the useage curve. If the public knew how scarce oil really was back when oil first kicked off; would it have been so misused? (Oil- and gas- fired power stations FFS!*) We have now a fairly good idea how much accessible nuclear fuel** there is; which is the cornerstone of budgeting it's use.
* I know, useful for short lead-time temporary capacity; but it shouldn't be used for regular generation just because gas is cheap at that moment.
** According to wikipedia, A 1,000 MW coal-burning power plant could release as much as 5.2 tons/year of uranium (containing 74 pounds (34 kg) of uranium-235) and 12.8 tons/year of thorium. So could we run nuclear-stations off coal-station waste?
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