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Either you love 'em or you hate 'em. Or in the case of Fred West - both. Tell us your ankle-biter stories.

(, Thu 17 Apr 2008, 15:10)
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I may have too many opinions, but they are just that...my opinions
My first thought was that this girl is a stupid kid who can't tell the difference between a period and a miscarriage. Does she have the biological or medical knowledge to "artificially inseminated herself "as often as possible" while taking herbal drugs to induce miscarriages"? Where did she manage to get the sperm? Viable sperm that is not some guy's product of a wanking session. How did she manage to insiminate herself? Did she watch the scene showing the lesbian couple's DIY-artifical insemination by turkey baster in "If These Walls Could Talk 2" one too many times? Does anyone know if there are herbal remedies that accurately induce miscarriage every time? Then I found this article: hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/ART_HOAX?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US specifically this quote by the 'artist':
"Because the miscarriages coincide with the expected date of menstruation (the 28th day of my cycle), it remains ambiguous whether ... there was ever a fertilized ovum or not. The reality of the pregnancy, both for myself and for the audience, is a matter of reading," she wrote.

The fact that both pro- and anti-abortion groups are taking this silly little girl seriously only shows their ignorance.

On the subject of conceptual art pushing the boundaries, this bit is something that has always been and will always be the main debating point between conceptual and non-conceptual artists. There are 2 types of art schools and art programs. One type focuses on teaching students actual technique and how to produce a quality product. The other focuses on concept only. I've seen more students come out of conceptual art programs who have interesting ideas, but lack the basic talent and skills to produce a quality piece that not only people want to view, but that people even know what the fuck it is. I have yet to meet a conceptual artist who has any real skill. Obviously my years of study and practical work were in non-conceptual art. And I'm talking about over 10 years of actively producing art that still hangs in people's homes and businesses so I think might have an idea of what is marketable quality.

As far as pushing boundaries and shock value is concerned, in this day and age with sites like rotten.com et al, is it actually possible to shock people anymore? Disgust them, yes. But shock? HIghly doubtful.

So, does the work of this art student actually "spark conversation and debate on the relationship between art and the human body." No it does not and it has not.

Will "a cube lined with plastic sheets with a blood-and-petroleum-jelly mixture in between, onto which she would project video footage of herself "experiencing miscarriages in her bathroom tub." convey the idea she is attempting to express? If it does that by itself, why does she feel the need to include "visual representations, a news release and other narrative materials" as well? Perhaps because otherwise, it just looks like a bunch of trash in a cube with a video of a girl writhing about in a bathtub? (No, I haven't seen the video footage, but one can guess at its content)

In my opinion, this is less art and more a silly girl's attempt at 15-minutes of fame. And a crap attempt at that. She does not have the knowledge or skill required to pull this idea off in reality. Even if she was able to do so, it shows her lack of understanding of her own body and what kind of damage such a project would cause to her own organs. The fact that she gave the following statement shows her ignorance of medical testing capabilities:
"The most poignant aspect of this representation - the part most meaningful in terms of its political agenda (and, incidentally, the aspect that has not been discussed thus far) - is the impossibility of accurately identifying the resulting blood," she said.
(, Mon 21 Apr 2008, 5:15, Reply)

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