That as soon as there's any mention of patriotism/national identity...
...somebody gets paranoid that it will descend into racist babblings.

Not sure if I love, hate or am mildly amused by that but it's a product of many things over a long period of time.
(squigbobble existed, Thu 3 Oct 2013, 14:10, 5 replies)

Don't worry, we can just preface everything with "I'm not racist, but..."

( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Thu 3 Oct 2013, 14:50, closed)

epicwin

(squigbobble existed, Thu 3 Oct 2013, 15:50, closed)

Unfortunately I agree
I'd love to be able to publicly exhibit a sense of patriotism, especially to annoy my Merkin friends, but the concept of Britishness and the flags of the nations have been stolen by the white supremacist nutters.
( Snappyuk gets BIGGER with free sample., Thu 3 Oct 2013, 17:04, closed)

Arguably also, patriotism is a way of devoting yourself to your country's history. Ours only started getting pride-worthy in 1833 and it took until the 1960s before half the really bad stuff stopped.

I'm not proud of colonialism or the slave trade: I'm ashamed of them

I am however proud of first gay civil ceremonies and pending gay marriages, and of our cooperation with the IWCC and various international bodies that prosecute war crimes, however fudged that participation may be

Oh, and tea and scones: superb.
(Carpe Cyprinidae, Thu 3 Oct 2013, 18:32, closed)

Exactly.
Patriotism is the new xenophobia.
( edjogs Collared doves are shit., Thu 3 Oct 2013, 17:32, closed)