Also of course we're doing worse if the general ecology of the world is anything to go by

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:12, 2 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

We've fucked it right good and proper and that's for sure

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:12, Reply)

We may have fucked ourselves over and even that remains to be seen
but the world itself has gone through much worse before and come out of it fine.
( Kroney, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:15, Reply)

I agree

(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:20, Reply)

That's over a period of millions of years
Man made changes will affect the world in decades
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:20, Reply)

What I mean is
"it remains to be seen if we've fucked ourselves over" ie if we've killed our own species. We might survive it, we might not.
( Kroney, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:23, Reply)

If there was centralised policy and all that shit it might be somewhat better that a fuck it let's see what happens

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:24, Reply)

Bollocks, one volcano goes off and it spills more carbon into the atmosphere than the whole of the man made carbon in the northern hemisphere.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:56, Reply)

People blame global warming on man made issues like they used to blame them on god.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:56, Reply)

Nah climate change has always been part of the make up, it's mans discernable impact upon the same which is cause for concern

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:05, Reply)

i'm fairly sure that's not actually true

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:03, Reply)

All you have to do is look at the level of air pollutants on the Chinese East Coast to look past that particular statement

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:06, Reply)

OK, slight exasoration with the northern hemisphere, but at least for europe.
Otherwise, the volcano in Iceland wouldn't have had an effect if it's already that bad anyway.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:17, Reply)

Volcano emissions have always been an established part of the ecology, whether the carbon they produce has a direct effect on the climate system, or if it's absorbed by forests and whatnot
Excepting most of the forests are now down, to be replaced by pasture land for domesticated animals to be adding further pollutants via methane gas emissions. Chuck in our reliance on oil and it's just not very good all round. An unsustainable 10.5 billion people by 2050, aint too clever either.
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 13:25, Reply)

Nah, we're not.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:13, Reply)

Course we are, dwindling resources and upwards only population increase with zero overall planning
Chuck in loss of natural habitat throughout the world at an alarming rate, loss of wildlife natural vegetation all that jazz.
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:17, Reply)

THINK OF THE POLAR BEARS
Knut always in r hartz
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 12:19, Reply)