no, i think he might be right on this,
if something is firmly canon, i guess that would mean it is "firmly orthodox" but that doesn't mean anything.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Mon 17 Sep 2012, 12:56, 2 replies, latest was 13 years ago)

I like it when you're angry. It makes my cock firmly orthodox.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 17 Sep 2012, 12:58, Reply)

'Dracula' is firmly within the canon of gothic fiction.
It is also hilariously badly written and considered to be tremendously important to the development of pre-Modernist Gothic writing.

Doesn't necessarily mean it is orthodox. Naked Lunch is literary canon, but in no way orthodox. Ditto The Atrocity Exhibition.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 17 Sep 2012, 13:04, Reply)

Orthodox Jews are also orthodox.
As are members of the Greek Orthodox church. Ultravox, conversely, are a pop group. But are Ultravox orthodox? And what about the singer Bono Vox?

Beth Ditto certainly is an atrocity who makes an exhibition of herself though. I'll give you that one.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 17 Sep 2012, 13:06, Reply)

i can't face this.

( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Mon 17 Sep 2012, 13:11, Reply)

Is that by Joy Division?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 17 Sep 2012, 13:11, Reply)

monty,
am i being obtuse, or is plummy being daft?
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Mon 17 Sep 2012, 13:13, Reply)

These are not mutually exclusive things here.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 17 Sep 2012, 13:17, Reply)