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( , Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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Not to the same extent as TD, but I can remember being amazed to discover 'alternative' music.
When I started going to clubs aged around 15/16 there was one or two nights that catered for all the alternative groups - goths, metallers, indie kids, hippies, crusties, etc. - we all had to wait our turn as the DJs would play a section of each style of music through the course of the night.
Of course this introduced you to other genres you might not otherwise have heard and you learned to appreciate them.
( , Thu 11 Oct 2012, 23:08, 2 replies, latest was 13 years ago)

You'd like my friend Neil's writing, maybe.
I think I gazzed you a link to one of his pieces once before.
( , Thu 11 Oct 2012, 23:11, Reply)

Why do you think I sent you it?
You're one of the few people who don't just say that things are fucking shit.
( , Thu 11 Oct 2012, 23:13, Reply)

I'm not that much of a Joy Division fan, but other people's passion for a band always makes me want to explore what it is that they love.
( , Thu 11 Oct 2012, 23:16, Reply)

I think the main thing is that they were just working class lads and they made such fluid, literary music. Arty when they had no right to be, and I don't think they realised just how arty and clever they were.
( , Thu 11 Oct 2012, 23:18, Reply)

Some great songs- Ceremony (which was written by Joy Division) and Temptation are fucking wonderful.
( , Thu 11 Oct 2012, 23:28, Reply)

But - as below - I grew up in Barrow-in-Furness. Popular culture was forced upon us, and if you wanted to be different you had to get out.
Three of us went to Glasgow after school one weekend to see Lloyd Cole. Ok, we'd been a bit smartarsey about getting out of town etc. - but when we went to get our bags from the common room someone had written "posh twats" on them.
( , Thu 11 Oct 2012, 23:16, Reply)

And I'm on last week's main qotw Best Of page TWICE.
BEAT THAT, FATBOY!!!
( , Thu 11 Oct 2012, 23:24, Reply)

So there were kids there with cool older brothers or parents that smoked dope, etc.
But it took me until my fifth year to meet them.
There was still the twats who called you names if you had long hair, but it didn't really matter because there were enough alternative people to make it bearable.
( , Thu 11 Oct 2012, 23:23, Reply)

I passed my 11 plus and went to Grammar School. A year later it became a comprehensive but it was the closest school to home so I stayed there - ex Grammar School teachers forced to teach in a comp wasn't a happy mix at all.
They loved our year but even as a 15 year old I watched standards decline.
( , Thu 11 Oct 2012, 23:30, Reply)
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