If you genuinely don't believe that
then you've read too much fucking Daily Mail and there's little hope for you.

Organised criminal begging, trespass, pickpocketing has been going on in London with limited police interference for hundreds of fucking years. This lot are not have "a blind eye" turned to them any more than any other beggars or petty theives are. You've just been listening to too much xenophobic rhetoric.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:50, 1 reply, 12 years ago)

Haven't read the Daily Mail in years.
Yes, crime of all sorts has been going on for years. The fact remains that it spikes when a particular community arrives, suggesting that they operate with an institutional disregard for the law.
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:53, Reply)

no.
it spikes when a group of people who happen to be criminals arrive. you want to judge a whole ethnic community by the actions of those people, you're a racist. And an idiot. "institutional disregard for the law" my arse. Are you writing speeches for UKIP now?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 12:59, Reply)

Are you telling me that local crime rates don't spike when a traveller community arrives?

( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:03, Reply)

I've not the faintest idea
I haven't looked into it

But I certainly wouldn't just assume it was the case without thinking. Just like I don't assume that all young black men are drug dealing murderers. But, hey, whatever keeps you feeling liberal, my man.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:05, Reply)

I'm going on my own experience.
When I was a child we'd have frequent traveller camps in my area. They weren't just one ethnic group by any means, but every time they'd turn up the incidents of assault, burglaries, robberies and car theft would spike noticeably.

Perhaps that does make me prejudiced against traveller communities. Frankly, I'm OK with that. What I'm not is racist. Traveller communities come from all different ethnic backgrounds. "Travellers" are not a race.
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:12, Reply)

You do know that's the same fucking argument the EDL and BNP use about Islam, right?
fucking hell.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:14, Reply)

Oh, come on, for fuck's sake.
Now you're just being insulting.
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:17, Reply)

And so are you.

(Bazongaloid, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:18, Reply)

no, I'm not.
The "it's not racist because Islam isn't a race so THERE" argument is bandied all the time by those fuckwits.

You're prejudiced against a particular group of society. Yes, semantically, it's not racism. Neither is sexism, or homophobia. You reckon they are "better"?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:22, Reply)

Yes, you are.
The reason for this is that you are judging this whole group of people from Romania as criminals simply by virtue of the fact that they have come from somewhere else and are living in a way you don't like.

Nobody likes the criminal element that is almost certainly present amongst this group, but nobody likes the criminal element anywhere.

But you really can't see just how prejudicial your argument are can you?
(Bazongaloid, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:17, Reply)

Well, for one thing I'm not the one assuming travellers are all from Romania, you are.

( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:18, Reply)

Did you miss the original post?
Because you've spent a long time arguing here for someone who doesn't know full well that we are discussing a group gypsies who are allegedly form Romania living in Hyde Park, I mean, I'm not suggesting you're clutching at straws here, but you do actually talk about Hyde Park quite specifically in the post below.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:20, Reply)

*This* group of gypsies may be from Romania.
I was talking about my experience with travellers in general. I've twice referenced it in my posts and specifically stated that I'm not targetting one group of travellers over another.

My problem with travellers, with ALL travellers, is that the crime rate spikes when they arrive somewhere and that my sympathies lie much further towards the lives that are getting disrupted. I don't think a travelling culture is a decent excuse to allow them to spike the crime rate in this way.

I am not the one making this a racial argument.
( Kroney, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:24, Reply)

For fucks sake, this is jsut ridiculous.
www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post2041416

I'm glad you're so happy being prejudiced against groups of people because of the way they lives whilst being blissfully unaware of what sort of person that makes you.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 7 Aug 2013, 13:26, Reply)