I think it's a dick move to not pay them at least minimum wage in the first place
I tip when it's required, but I'm not going to pay over the odds just because someone landed a shit job and needs me to make up his salary.
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 22:52, 1 reply, 16 years ago)

That may be
but that's the way it's currently set up, and there isn't enough pressure on Washington to get the labor laws about waiting tables changed. The system is there and will stay there until the pressure is great for it to change. I don't see that happening soon.
( Wanderer, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 23:07, Reply)

Well I'm still not going to participate in it unless I feel it's necessary. You don't tip people at garages or in shops, so why should waiting staff be treated differently?
If they don't like it, fuck off and get another job.
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 23:18, Reply)

For many, that's the best job they can get.
Personally I learned another trade so I could get out of that racket, but for a young person without an education frequently that's all they can manage to get. The labor laws are written in such a way as to rape those who don't get good tips.

If a teacher complains that she's not paid enough, should she also be told to fuck off and find a better paying job? Or should she be compensated more? How about the guy who hauls trash? Should he too be told to fuck off? How about the cleaning crew at your office?

If no one waited on tables, who would serve you? How would the restaurants operate? Would they all become self-serve places like McDonald's? Would that be good?
( Wanderer, Tue 23 Mar 2010, 23:26, Reply)