I'd feel uncomfortable
with anyone who said 'different but valued.' Different in what way? You mean different in that we are of a certain type? That our abilities and capability is different to that of men. But it doesn't matter because we're good at what *really* matters- being empathetic and having children.

Have you ever noticed that when people say different but equal, what they actually mean is 'I have a stereotype of women. It includes virtues I don't want and don't need but am going to pretend are just as good.'
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 31 Mar 2010, 11:57, 1 reply, 16 years ago)

Er
Different in that you are a human being and therefore different from everyone else. This is the problem I have with feminism now. It isn't inclusive enough.
(porkylips looks better as the sun goes down., Wed 31 Mar 2010, 12:54, Reply)

But if all humans being are different
then why feel the need to start throwing 'equal but different' around specifically about women?
The reason feminism wasn't inclusive enough (no excuse for it now) was simply that there is only so much fighting you can do at a time. And woman got the shorter end of the stick than almost any other group. And it still goes on. The annual income of two lesbians for example, is proportionally far less than a gay partnership. Now it could be because all lesbians are dykes who spend their day doing raffia knitting, eating vegan food and whining about opression, or it could be because there is fundamental inequality in the system that needs to be tackled. The point is people only have enough energy to fight their own corner.

Personally I stand by the equality motto. No better treated no worse, taken on value as a person not as a gender. The fact I'm a woman shouldn't mean I'm prejudged. If I'm a twat fair enough. But the fact I own one shouldn't be my defining characteristic
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 31 Mar 2010, 13:09, Reply)