OK - so it leads to a higher risk of deformities.
So what? Unless you think that we're obliged to have the healthiest possible children - in which case, just about all sex is wrong when IVF could be used to screen embryos - it's neither here nor there. Almost all children will lead a worthwhile life.

And, as I said before, the question here is in respect to sex, not procreation, so you're shifting the debate anyway.

As for the bonobos - yes: they have sex for all kinds of reasons. So do humans. I can't see why you think this important.

This isn't me being thick: it's just me refusing to give in to the yuck-reaction, which seems to be all you have.
( Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Sat 11 Sep 2010, 10:44, 1 reply, 14 years ago)

is there anything wrong with just having that yuck reaction though?

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Sat 11 Sep 2010, 10:49, Reply)

No -
But that's because I don't think it has any moral value whatsoever; nor does it indicate anything that does. So when it comes to moral debates, if all you've got is the yuck reaction, you ain't got much.
( Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Sat 11 Sep 2010, 11:03, Reply)

it's taken me a while
having not really woken up properly yet, but now I see where you are coming from.

I'm not one for moral judgements, and can fully state my reaction to the news was entirely "ewww", but then that wouldn't be much different from my reaction to anyone shagging Bert.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Sat 11 Sep 2010, 11:10, Reply)