Pederasty
though the right name, was not practiced below a certain age. I believe it was generally 14-15 which while still a bit dodgy, is hardly a 7 year old
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Sat 11 Sep 2010, 10:51, 1 reply, 14 years ago)

I didn't mention 7 year olds
I'm well aware of what pederasty means and how it was practised in those societies. I'm not asking Enzyme to justify paedophilia, just exploring his views on other 'yuck' based taboos, like pederasty and cannibalism.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Sat 11 Sep 2010, 10:54, Reply)

Ooh, slight mindpiss
See below
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Sat 11 Sep 2010, 10:55, Reply)

I haven't tried to justify anything in this thread.
I've raised a question about why people think it wrong, but that's not the same as attempting a justification.

I don't think you can justify paedophilia. I don't see what that has to do with it, though. (Your strategy seems here to be that, when I say I don't understand the problem with x, you respond by saying, "Ah, but what about y?" - and that's either missing the point, or poisoning the well.)
( Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Sat 11 Sep 2010, 10:59, Reply)

No dude
I take the view that just because something is distasteful, it shouldn't be proscribed, abortion for instance, is distasteful to many people but is clearly something that should be available in society. Similarly homosexuality, viewed with distaste by some people but no justification for proscribing it. I do see, however, that there are some things that in (western) society are very much frowned on, legally and morally. Incest is one of these things. There are reasons why this is so. You are an intelligent guy, I can't fathom why you can't see incest as being wrong in any way at all.

Surely if sibling incest isn't automatically wrong, then neither is child/ parent incest? And if not, why not?
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Sat 11 Sep 2010, 11:05, Reply)

Hyar hyar.

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Sat 11 Sep 2010, 11:07, Reply)

"There are reasons why this is so"
And I want to know what they are. I've not heard anything convincing yet. Noone has offered an explanation of its wrongness here. The most that's been offered is a claim that we're disposed against it. But that's a bare fact of biology, not a moral claim; it won't tell us anything about how we should think about someone who doesn't share the aversion that most putatively have, or whether that's a moral problem or simply an interesting personality quirk.

See my reply to Roota below about the parent thing.
( Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Sat 11 Sep 2010, 11:20, Reply)

well, what did Noone say?

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Sat 11 Sep 2010, 11:23, Reply)

One of those reasons is the point about growing up with that person

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Sat 11 Sep 2010, 11:24, Reply)

*bangs head on desk*
*grits teeth*
But that's not a moral reason!
( Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Sat 11 Sep 2010, 11:35, Reply)