I haven't met a 12 year old that I would confidently say was level headed and rational.
I don't doubt they can differentiate between right and wrong at all, but what there understanding of right and wrong is I can't comment on. I don't think at 12 anyone can be fully held repsonsible for their actions. I don't neccessarily believe it's all the parents fault either. I don't really see what beneficial results come out of blaming someone anyway. The kids responsible will learn from this, hopefully the teachers will, the system won't.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:37, 1 reply, 15 years ago)

im afraid we'll have to disagree
12 year olds do have a sense of right and wrong if they are of average intelligence. And I don't think those kids will really learn from this tragedy bec_se it won't mean anything to them.n if they have little sense it was wrong as you claim, then why would they associate the 2 things, if they do as I think, they just wouldn't really care. Either way nothing is learned by anyone, until you fully impress the consequences
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:50, Reply)

the consequences for a lot of kids is that they overcome the bullying
and go one to be even more confident and happy than they would have otherwise been.
Swings and roundabouts, and it won't stop happening.
All anyone else can do is step in when it does. I'm a bullying and harrassment advisor at work and I think people will always try it on, you know, pick their mark, see who's weak. We need to teach people and kids how to nip it right in the bud and not be intimidated.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 12:54, Reply)

good point, well made. I hope you are wrong though. I want to believe
that the children responsible will one day realise what they did and make changes. It's an idealistic view I know.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 13:00, Reply)

One lad who bullied me now beats his own kids
Another girl who bullied me has a fairly decent job and is by all accounts a good mother. We've made amends but I draw the line at being her friend on facebook
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 5 Oct 2010, 13:06, Reply)