Vegans and militant vegetarians.
We don't want to know, we don't want to hear. You don't know better, you don't have secret knowledge, you won't live longer...in fact the only thing you'll win at is at being smug without justification.

Just fuck the fuck off with your witless fucking agenda you fucking fucks, for fuck's sake.
( Infidel , shit and wrong, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 0:38, 39 replies)

Feeling guilty and defensive about eating animals?

( 4Q just lurking, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 1:03, closed)

Nope.
I'm a farmer of swine and I eat a lot of meat.

I'm just tired of food fascists telling me what to eat. Bigoted fuckwits.
( Infidel , shit and wrong, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 1:56, closed)

I hope those are free range pigs

(the other guy not the one that gave you coochie warts, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 2:13, closed)

Certainly not.
Freedom's too good for 'em.
( Infidel , shit and wrong, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 2:25, closed)

Pork in Canada is so cheap
I don't even bother with bread, I just slap mustard on slices of tenderloin.
Must be tough to turn a profit raising pigs though.
(the other guy not the one that gave you coochie warts, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 2:39, closed)

Naturally, there is no profit.
At least very little for most of us.
I'm faring slightly better in that my swinelets are exported south of the border and we get a contracted price for them.
Other parts of the business are not so lucky. At the mercy of inflated feed prices, a processing and distribution system that makes money for everyone but the producer and intense competitive pressure, the industry is a joke.

It's still better than the UK though.

There is a cyclical system of profit and doom in the pig industry, so we'll probably make some serious money again if we can sustain the losses for another year or two.
( Infidel , shit and wrong, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 3:25, closed)

Why do you say feed prices
are inflated?

They're based on the commodity markets. Those are driven by lots of factors, not least of all oil prices.

Your pigfood is also used to make fuel. That's what's making it expensive.
(username failed moderation, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 11:43, closed)

I say inflated because they have risen by a significant amount.
You're right of course, they are a commodity like everything else.
In north America it is the decision to use corn as a biofuel source which has inflated the price of this commodity. That and a poor harvest which has decreased availability.But you can't eat biofuel and animal food here has a strong bias towards corn (maize)
Maize isn't a staple in Europe so things are different there but still the feed input to pig production has increased from about 40% of cost of production to around 70%.
Interestingly the Chinese government once infamous for poor decisions in food policy, looked at this idea and decided that making a staple food crop into fuel , in the face of a growing population, would have been a bad choice and have avoided it. I think the premier used the word "mad".
The times are a changin'.
( Infidel , shit and wrong, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 12:13, closed)

All makes sense,
although I'm not sure how far the Chinese governments pragmatic approach will stretch if oil prices start shooting up again.

'course the other big factor is the idiots on Wall street. They can drive the markets up or down by 20% after a boozy lunch.
(username failed moderation, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 12:43, closed)

Hear, hear.
The same goes to a militant anything.
( vix0r was not Matthew on, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 1:06, closed)

Yeah, strong convictions of any sort are bad.

( 4Q just lurking, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 14:01, closed)

I had one tell me to move back 3 paces,
she couldn't tolerate the smell of rancid meat.
That was when I remembered where I had left my sausages.
(the other guy not the one that gave you coochie warts, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 1:59, closed)

Sausages? You freak!
I have the one sausage, as nature intended - and only use it frighten vegetarian ladies and horses.
( Infidel , shit and wrong, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 2:08, closed)

I like having the argument about evolution and domestication.
That usually makes 'em froth at the mouth.
Also it's fun to do a nice English Breakfast in their frying pan if you live with one.
Because watching them angrily use modern cleaning chemicals on their frying pan whilst bleating on about factory farms always makes me a bit tumescent.

I'm a cunt aren't I? No, really, I am aren't I?
(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Tue 29 Jan 2013, 6:06, closed)

You do realise that "cunt" isn't a simile for "dreary twelve year old"?

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 7:53, closed)

Yes.
Thank you shambo.

I appreciate your input.
(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Tue 29 Jan 2013, 8:27, closed)

If it makes you feel any better
yes, yes you are.
( Bats, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 10:56, closed)

I think somebody needs a hug.
Have you considered not being so massively uptight about what other people eat or what they say? I can't imagine that level of pointless indignation is healthy combined with all that cheap, tasteless pig fat in your arteries.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 7:55, closed)

Perhaps you missed the point , old bean casserole.
I don't preach meat eating.
In fact I take little interest in the food choices of others, if only they would be kind enough extend the same courtesy and quit trying to force their set of values on me.
But they don't. Huge "not for profit, honestly" organisations run by people with an anti meat agenda are trying to get laws in place that will affect the food buying choices of ordinary people.
I'm just saying that I wouldn't mind if they fucked off is all.

Now if you don't mind , this bowl of dripping won't eat itself.
( Infidel , shit and wrong, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 11:55, closed)

You fucking Nancy.
Which big vegan bully has been imposing on you? It must be awful to be so incredibly insecure that you're still butthurt by Linda fucking McCartney.

I manage to be an omnivore without pissing and whining. Give it a go.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 12:28, closed)

Butthurt you say?
Are you trvialising sexual assault you monster?
( Infidel , shit and wrong, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 12:38, closed)

wtfayboa?

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 12:43, closed)

Oh nothing, nothing.
Just tickling yer hole.
( Infidel , shit and wrong, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 13:19, closed)

we had a 'pop up' butchers on the high street over Christmas.
All free range this and ethically produced that. It had been open two days before a group of middle aged women in long skirts and 'ethnically' patterned headscarves set up stall outside telling people just how incorrect their dietary choices were.

It struck me as odd that they would choose to do so outside this shop, rather than the Sainsburys over the road- I don't think the supermarket had their meat labelled with the name and location of the farm, and a picture of the farmer themselves- and then I realised. Sainsburys had security.
(FartThroughAWalkieTalkie wished you were dead in ditch on, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 8:29, closed)

This is a total myth.
There are far more meat-eaters trying to convince vegetarians that they have got it wrong than the other way round.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 8:50, closed)

Really?
Do these "meat eaters" ( or omnivores as they should be referred to) spend millions they collect as so called welfare organisations on anti vegetable farming campaigns?
Do the omnivores stand outside greengrocers shouting " lettuce is the wrong choice" and throw beetroot juice over customers carrying a bag of carrots?
Nope, they mostly just get on with their lives, occasionally being so confrontational that they will try to accomodate a veggie dinner guest in an act that will never be reciprocated.
Those preachy omnivorous bastards.
( Infidel , shit and wrong, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 11:41, closed)

Oh stop fucking crying. Jesus.

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 12:29, closed)

Chill out Shambo.
It's all a bit of fun, your angerthrash responses are upsetting me.
( Infidel , shit and wrong, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 13:18, closed)

No. You're absolutely correct.
I certainly shouldn't have indulged in faux indignation and unnecessary vulgarity in a thread that started "Just fuck the fuck off with your witless fucking agenda you fucking fucks, for fuck's sake."
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 19:03, closed)

^
I'm veggie but just get embarrassed when I encounter a particularly vocal one at any kind of gathering who then proceeds to bore me and everyone else within earshot about how great and right they are. It's just choosing to eat one thing and not another, you fucking dullard, it's not some kind of zany lifestyle choice or joining a club for special people.
( drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 9:03, closed)

Some of them do act pretty special though.
I mean, really really special.
( Bats, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 10:57, closed)

Right.
You eat what you want to eat, I'll do the same; neither one of us needs to try to make the other feel shame for their choice and we are done.

I wish it were always so easily resolved. What's next?
( Infidel , shit and wrong, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 11:23, closed)

Likewise.
Oddly enough I sit opposite a vocal woman at work who goes on about animal welfare, PETA and vegetarianism... despite not being one. Eh? She says she would be if it weren't for her love of sausages.

The man on the otherside, however, is a meat-lover but we happily swap veggie recipes as his wife is a lettuce muncher. Introduced me to Paneer cheese. Yum!
( vix0r was not Matthew on, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 13:35, closed)

If ever I go to a vegetarian's house for a meal, they cook a vegetarian meal, and expect me to eat it.
So I make sure when they come to mine, I cook a meaty meal, and expect them to eat it.

Because you don't HAVE to be vegetarian.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 11:31, closed)

thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=vegetarian_test
( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 11:55, closed)

Oh lol
:D
( drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 12:02, closed)

:D

( Infidel , shit and wrong, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 12:19, closed)

Completely bullet-proof argument from maddox there.
"I've met a lot of troops and I know that most of them would not object to being eaten."
( 4Q just lurking, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 14:20, closed)

Hear bloody hear!
No problem with Vegemites - as long as they simply avoid eating meat themselves, and realise that the whole fucking world doesn't revolve around pandering to their comestible choices.
If they try and tell me I'm a bad person because I'll handbrake turn in order not to miss a McDonalds, then fuck 'em.

Oh - and I've never met a poor farmer - they all dress like cunts but have a fuck sight more money than the average man. So farmers' sob stories don't wash for me.
(Colonel Blink is now officially a pretentious prick, Tue 29 Jan 2013, 21:51, closed)