by the way...
marriage advice by Abdul Aziz al Hammadi

tinyurl.com/marriagecrime

"We call that ... the gradual edifying reconciliation method … whenever a husband notices a bizarre behaviour from his wife, he can advise her, then avoid sleeping with her in one room and if that doesn't work out then he can whip her gently in a manner that makes her understand the situation."
(foxy01, Sat 2 Jan 2010, 0:48, 3 replies)

Context is everything
some people pay good money to be whipped gently.
( sandettie light vessel automatic New Twitter - @bollocksreally, Sat 2 Jan 2010, 9:08, closed)

Thank you for posting that.
This is why the idea that Sharia law is somehow compatible with modern Western ideals and morals is completely insane. Simple fact is, they're not compatible, and there's going to be a lot more trouble as the cultures continue to clash. It's a shame, and I wish it weren't so, but I find it difficult to believe otherwise.

I'm not saying that the culture that created Sharia law doesn't have value and worth, but what I am saying, without equivocation, is that I believe that my value system is not just different, it is BETTER-at least in this specific instance-because in my value system, it's just not okay for spouses to be violent to one another, no more than it would be appropriate to beat a child. Or a dog, come to think of it, really. Big fan of the "don't beat people or animals" theory of life, I am.

(edit: I am of course not talking about Dirty Things With Whips and Chains that consenting adults may choose to engage in during Sexy Times, I'm talking about violence as a result of anger or control issues.)
(herbivorous, Sun 3 Jan 2010, 8:58, closed)

But
Is that any different to the Christian Corporal Punishment type people, who believe the way to live God's word is to have the woman submit to the man, and have him administer a bit of corporal Punishment?

John Safran covered something like that in his latest series "Race Relations" www.abc.net.au/tv/racerelations/
(David CopAFeel Used to be The_Elcat - Spouting crap since 1970., Thu 7 Jan 2010, 12:24, closed)