Do you have any moral obligations to yourself?
Do (can?) you decide what they are, or are they absolute?
( Comma, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 18:37, archived)

What?

( Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 18:37, archived)

I don't very much like to hurt people.
Always makes meh feel guilty.

I might get in trouble.
(The Earl of Kilburnie, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 18:37, archived)

Write your own essay.

( Neptune A dole queue dosser and foul mouthed chav., Thu 4 Jun 2009, 18:37, archived)

What would they be?
*Confused and may want an example*
( Spider Fucking Riviera got stiches for a knife wound for the first time, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 18:37, archived)

HELLO FACEWRONG

( Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 18:38, archived)

For example, if we say it's bad to harm people, do you have an obligation not to harm yourself?

( Comma, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 18:41, archived)

That's a poor example. Hurting yourself deliberately isn't a moral issue, it's one of mental retardation.

( Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 18:43, archived)

anything could be a moral issue.

( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 18:43, archived)

You are.

( Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 18:44, archived)

I know.

( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 18:45, archived)

I switched my PC about a bit, and now it's in a BTX arrangement, instead of ATX.
It runs a bit cooler now, but still 18C above ambient.
( Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 18:47, archived)

how do you do that then?
I thought that was a different motherboard form factor.

My PC is currently:
fan1: 661 RPM (min = 0 RPM)
fan2: 0 RPM (min = 0 RPM)
fan3: 0 RPM (min = 0 RPM)
temp1: +34.0°C (low = +127.0°C, high = +127.0°C) sensor = transistor
temp2: +24.0°C (low = +127.0°C, high = +127.0°C) sensor = thermal diode

/dev/sda: SAMSUNG HD502HI: 25°C
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 18:48, archived)

Simples!
Just yank out the motherboard tray and flip it upside down. Now all the connectors on the back are the right way up too. This way, the PSU fan doesn't compete with the CPU fan, as the CPU is the lowest thing in the case.

None of this stops the southbridge chip being over 80C though. It's very busy and important.
( Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 18:57, archived)

a lot of PC cases now have the PSU at the bottom.
I've yet to be convinced of the wisdom of that. My PSU has completely isolated airflow though.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 18:58, archived)

Well, externally it would mean you don't have a mains cable going up past audio cables and the like.
A bit neater, and lowers the CoG. Other than that, no real advantage.
( Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 19:04, archived)

it makes it easier to tidy up the tangle of wires inside the case too
if you're bothered about that kind of thing anyway
( well, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 19:06, archived)

oh wait, you already said neater

( well, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 19:07, archived)

The folks at Silent PC Review seem to go on about it
as if there were some thermal advantage, I can't see it myself.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 19:07, archived)

no
i don't
( well, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 18:38, archived)

Are you getting us to do your homework for you again?

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 18:38, archived)

I'm actually not.
This is just for fun. Phunlosophy.
( Comma, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 18:42, archived)

oh, ok.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 18:56, archived)

Here's Comma!
Our moral obligation is to the Universe.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 4 Jun 2009, 18:38, archived)