they have place in a steak and kidney pudding, though.
that's why it's called "steak and kidney pudding".
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 21:12, archived)

this does not fit into my world view

( manolith hooray for me, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 21:14, archived)

embiggen it

( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 21:15, archived)