we can do that.
it's a piece of piss.

Now explain to me the methods used to get Hydrogen in the first place?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:46, archived)

Coersion, guilt and fire.

( Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:47, archived)

you're right about the third one.
more or less.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:48, archived)

That was the first I thought of
and then I got chemically confused and remembered why I work in an office.
( Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:51, archived)

The powers of persuasion. Or harsh language.

( FoldsFive, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:48, archived)

If we could harness the righteous indignation
of FotE campaigners, there might be enough energy....
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:49, archived)

We could burn their sandals at the very least.
For shits and giggles, if nothing more.
( FoldsFive, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:50, archived)

I recall we did it in physics once.
it was an electrical process to seperate the water onto the two parts.
I think it involved a 'H' shaped test tube, and the gasess were collected in the vertical tubes of the 'H'. And electrodes were applied at teh bottom of the verticals of the 'H'. One gas colelcted on the anode side, and the other gas collected on teh cathode side.
The gasses were proven by burning them and observing their reactions. One has a squeaky pop, cant remember which it was.
( turb0t, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:49, archived)

Hydrogen, isn't it?

( Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:52, archived)

yeah.
electrolysis. It kind of needs electricity. which needs fossil fuels. bit of a catch-22 really.

Also, it only works at small scale. At large scale (ie to fuel any significant number of cars on the roads) you have to do catalytic cracking of hydrocarbons. Which a) needs hydrocarbons in the first place just as a raw material, so why not just burn them and b) is carried out at about 1000 degrees C, which kind of uses a lot of energy and has a bit of a wee carbon footprint.

the whole concept is fundamentally fucked, but that's never stopped people before.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 12:57, archived)