You're probably right
I wouldn't do either. Isn't it the same group as shaving, painting toenails and all that jazz?

I think this needs a Venn Diagram
( Derek Monte subthread killer: qu'est-ce que c'est, Fri 9 Jul 2010, 0:25, archived)

A Venn diagram never goes amiss

( in vino veritas, Fri 9 Jul 2010, 0:28, archived)