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NOOOO

(I helped save b3ta! Blue Star was working part time at the 5 and Dime, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 12:02, archived)

in this scenario I am seeing the lizards wielding the hammers
(I helped save b3ta! vladimir, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 12:03, archived)
YES

(I helped save b3ta! Blue Star was working part time at the 5 and Dime, Mon 20 Jun 2011, 12:09, archived)