Nope, they are correct and I can prove it with diagrams.
Trek is best when Gene Roddenberry is least involved AND least dead. Just imagine that as a Venn, icaba.
( brb Learn Ukrainian and prepare for a referendum, Fri 1 Nov 2024, 21:19, archived)

If you think any of it is better than DS9, and you think Strange New Worlds isn't fantastic
then I'll see you after school in the playground and I'm going to put you in a headlock until you cry and the teacher makes me stop but you know I totally would have beaten you up.
( Aardvark and so at last, I understood, Fri 1 Nov 2024, 21:28, archived)

DS9 is basically Star Trek having a crywank over Babylon 5.
It's not complete shit but it was the start of its journey down the Dark Path, which forever dominated its destiny. Star Trek, at its heart, is about free love in a communist scientocratic utopia. DS9 was spiritual ballbaggery in a dystopian space opera.

Babylon 5 is fucking ace at being that, which it has every right to be, because it doesn't claim to be Star Trek.

Which one is SNW again? They all blur into a sludgy mass of smug.
( brb Learn Ukrainian and prepare for a referendum, Fri 1 Nov 2024, 21:35, archived)

Ahem
DS9 came out just before B5.
And B5 creator went to Paramount with it as an idea first, but they rejected it... just before they made DS9
IIRC
( Invisible Wizard - 10th Level Nerf-herder, Fri 1 Nov 2024, 22:57, archived)

B5 was pitched in 1987, the same year TNG came out.
The suits years later encouraged the writers of DS9 to steal many of the ideas from B5 (without necessarily telling them where the ideas came from).

Ahem indeed.
( brb Learn Ukrainian and prepare for a referendum, Fri 1 Nov 2024, 23:29, archived)