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This is a normal post Waaah! Waaah! Waaah!
The evil Tories are going to destroy our wonderful ENNNN AITCH ESSSS! Envy of the world! All the staff are angels!
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Wed 7 Feb 2018, 19:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post They'd be able to help you Pru
You just need to ask for help
 (benito vaselini no not that one, Wed 7 Feb 2018, 20:36, , Reply)
This is a normal post Psychiatric care is the Cinderella service of our ENNNN AITCH ESSSS! The evil Tories don't care! The doctors and nurses are saints!

(I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Wed 7 Feb 2018, 21:07, , Reply)
This is a normal post How odd.

(Jimbotfu Bummed in the gob again, Wed 7 Feb 2018, 21:18, , Reply)
This is a normal post in a bitter twist of irony
i suspect they were partly responsible for inflicting you on this world.
 (hotpiss is very much liking your popping musics, Wed 7 Feb 2018, 22:23, , Reply)
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I don't think this attitude is called for. All evidence is that the Tories would like to sell off bits of the NHS. And you would have to be fucked in the head to think this a good idea or, you know, a Tory.
 (I helped save b3ta! transparenttown Dead to worse..., Thu 8 Feb 2018, 8:18, , Reply)
This is a normal post "All evidence" you say without citing any. Labour, under the auspices of Blair and Brown, began the wholesale sell off of the NHS via PFI. There really is evidence for that.

(I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Thu 8 Feb 2018, 9:01, , Reply)
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You're right sorry Paxman, I forgot I was on Panorama for a moment there. Don't disagree with the Blair and Brown comment still doesn't change the Tory agenda though.
 (I helped save b3ta! transparenttown Dead to worse..., Thu 8 Feb 2018, 13:40, , Reply)
This is a normal post "Direct Democracy: An Agenda For A New Model Party"
Of course Hunt had no input on the NHS chapter. Chinny reckon.
 (theswollenbeef where there's a will there's a wank, Thu 8 Feb 2018, 10:03, , Reply)
This is a normal post As long as the service works and is free at the point of delivery
What fucking difference does iit make if the IT staff are civil servants or not? Except you can at least get rid of contractors.
That was a fundamentally dishonest story.
 (I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Wed 7 Feb 2018, 21:59, , Reply)
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Yeah.. But at the same time, they both have awful hair
 (I helped save b3ta! DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Wed 7 Feb 2018, 22:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post It makes a huge difference.
When you do things yourself you build up to a standard, when you contract out things are built down to a price. .. and then you still end up paying for endless feature changes to get your system to do what you wanted it to do in the first place. In-house IT has much closer links with the people actually doing the job and often have extensive background knowledge of business rules, so they have a better grip on what the specification really means.

You say "as long as the service works", but in my experience of government IT systems maintained by private firms this rarely actually happens. Quite possibly because they keep giving contracts to the likes of Accenture and Capita, who seem to fuck up everything they touch because, in the words of Sybil Fawlty, they're cheap (and about as good as Mr O'Reilly). If civil servants screwed up an IT system they could be sacked, but there seem to be no consequences when private contractors do.

The argument for out-sourcing IT has always been cost, but personally I think each big department would be much better served by having their own teams, or even one big team for all the departments.
 (I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Wed 7 Feb 2018, 23:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post An excellent, well argued point.
Unlike Prutits, who seems to think that wanking into his soiled nappies in public makes him appear to be edgy and cool.

But seeing as we're here; big up our NHS! The people who work in it put in stupidly long hours, for less pay than they could get in the private sector simply because they actually care. Day in, day out. They truly put the Great into Great Britain.

Feel free to sneer, just keep in mind that it makes you look like a fuckwit.
 (UltimateMonkey Ban this sick filth!, Thu 8 Feb 2018, 1:05, , Reply)
This is a normal post Fully this^

(dyllon nice beaver., Thu 8 Feb 2018, 8:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'm just looking forward to seeing that £350m per week getting funnelled in.
That'll be great.
 (eViLegion Chief Commissioner of the Scottish Lunacy Board, Thu 8 Feb 2018, 11:45, , Reply)
This is a normal post Boris only promised £100m
The other quarter billion pounds seem to have gone missing.
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Thu 8 Feb 2018, 13:36, , Reply)
This is a normal post What’s a quarter billion between friends?
You can’t even buy a parliamentary majority with that.
 (I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Thu 8 Feb 2018, 20:23, , Reply)
This is a normal post Nicely put.
I'd add to that the point that, as well as things being built down to a price, that price also includes a profit-margin, and it's maintaining the profit margin that becomes the primary concern.
 (I helped save b3ta! Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Thu 8 Feb 2018, 9:48, , Reply)
This is a normal post "I think each big department would be much better served by having their own teams"
I tried that one. Got shut down comprehensively at every turn by senior management. This idea doesn't work by design in this political climate when you have to wait 16 weeks to gain approval to recruit permanent staff but can get a contractor next week, or approval for capital spend via tender by the end of the month. The public sector is geared to contract management rather than actually doing stuff by ideological design. This was 2013 under the coalition, I can only imagine it's got worse.
 (theswollenbeef where there's a will there's a wank, Thu 8 Feb 2018, 9:59, , Reply)
This is a normal post But OUR ENNNN AITCH ESSSS!!!

(I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Wed 7 Feb 2018, 23:36, , Reply)
This is a normal post Triggered?

(Huw Edwards #notalljews, Thu 8 Feb 2018, 0:14, , Reply)
This is a normal post Sleepwalking into an American healthcare system is not a good idea

(I helped save b3ta! simbosan liked your link on, Thu 8 Feb 2018, 0:35, , Reply)
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Problem isn't contractors, it's management who allow this unchecked. Trusts need an auditing authority that trump all decisions other than clinical. IT contractors work and never have their role scrutinised...that is a management issue. Put the auditors on a bonus scheme, let them be tyrannical...it would solve a lot of issues in the NHS.
 (I helped save b3ta! transparenttown Dead to worse..., Thu 8 Feb 2018, 8:26, , Reply)
This is a normal post Because no one voted for it?
In fact, a lot of people explicitly voted against this sort of thing.

Also, Brexit
 (LetsGetDownToIt, Thu 8 Feb 2018, 11:33, , Reply)
This is a normal post Doesn't Mitt Romney already own the blood plasma supply

(I helped save b3ta! Rebel biscuit stercore sumus et nos esse novimus, Wed 7 Feb 2018, 23:01, , Reply)
This is a normal post Bad, so bad.

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